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Yeah, this is the dealbreaker for me with alpine.js and htmx.
And I wouldn't even say "tight CSP" as much as "standard CSP." To make alpine.js play nice with CSP, you have to allow unsafe-eval, which severely weakens your protection against XSS.
alpine.js claims to have a compatibility build with CSP, but it's not officially available, doesn't fully work, and the parts that are broken in the CSP build aren't documented.[0]
htmx works under CSP, but it opens a new vector for attackers to inject JS into your page, which effectively neuters CSP.[1]
[0] https://github.com/alpinejs/alpine/discussions/1944
[1] https://htmx.org/docs/#security
Actually, HTMX has a fundamental flaw if it comes to history restoration: In some scenarios it takes snapshots of the DOM for history navigation, just before navigating away from a page. If the DOM was previously modified by other JS libraries like e.g. Alpine, these changes end up in the history snapshot, leading to unexpected results [1]. I've had a much smoother experience with Alpine.js + swup [2]. Disclaimer: I became a maintainer of swup this year.
[1] https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/issues/1015
“petite-vue is indeed intended to fill the gap for progressive enhancement cases where Vue 3 would be too heavy-handed.
It is not abandoned, but rather it is considered "done" because the scope is well defined. I don't think it needs more features (as that would defeat the purpose of being lean and minimal). If you find yourself needing more than what petite-vue provides, you can either go up to Vue proper, or try https://alpinejs.dev/.
That said, I should update the README to indicate this more clearly.”
Github discussion: https://github.com/vuejs/petite-vue/discussions/53
* https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view
Yet another JS framework. How fast is it really? The learning curve may not be worth it if it's slower than https://www.solidjs.com/ and according to https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/current.ht... few things are faster than a very little-known framework called Mikado (https://github.com/nextapps-de/mikado). That being said, I would never sacrifice performance of my software for how trendy or popular something is, e.g. React is #1 in popularity yet it's overcomplicated, massive, slow as hell.
Yet another JS framework. How fast is it really? The learning curve may not be worth it if it's slower than https://www.solidjs.com/ and according to https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/current.ht... few things are faster than a very little-known framework called Mikado (https://github.com/nextapps-de/mikado). That being said, I would never sacrifice performance of my software for how trendy or popular something is, e.g. React is #1 in popularity yet it's overcomplicated, massive, slow as hell.
How about plain HTML, CSS, and JavaScript? [1]
[1] https://github.com/cheatcode/joystick#writing-a-component
I still use Knockout[0] for almost an identical experience.
0: https://knockoutjs.com/
FWIW, the className prop is a React thing not a JSX thing. Other libraries which use JSX will happily accept a plain class prop. The React limitation is abstraction leakage: props are not attributes, they map to DOM properties.
But to the point that JSX is a DSL, that limitation is specifically because React itself is very tightly coupled to DOM semantics… but JSX explicitly has no built in semantics[1].
1: First sentence of https://facebook.github.io/jsx/ - “JSX is an XML-like syntax extension to ECMAScript without any defined semantics.”
I've been using daisyui + svelte and I'm pretty happy with it so far. It may not be as rich as some of the react UI libraries but the basics are all there.
https://daisyui.com/
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