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Neon Modem OverdriveProject mention: Open source P2P alternative to Slack and Discord built on Tor and IPFS | news.ycombinator.com | 2023-09-11
Thank you for the detailed description of your idea. Indeed, if you're willing to accept the shortcomings of a dedicated USENET infrastructure, then it is definitely something that could be done. In fact, I did consider NNTP for another project of mine (https://github.com/mrusme/neonmodem), which might eventually swallow up Superhighway84 altogether. If you're interested in actually giving it a try and implement a functional NNTP library for Go I'd be more than happy to make use of it! :-)
> Superhighway84 it was very expensive for me to actually run the software
I agree with you, in terms of efficiency IPFS is still miles away from where it should be. Hence my feedback on Quiet, as I do not perceive IPFS to radically imrpove within the next few months or even years. And as you correctly stated it looks like Quiet uses some workarounds to improve on the overall mediocre efficiency of IPFS, which however lead to shortcomings on other ends:
> Quiet itself notes a limit of 30-100 individuals with its application
However, this is not how P2P should be. I'd be truly curious to hear from someone at OpenSea, or Fleek, or any of the services that offer high volume IPFS hosting about their experience and gut feeling on its future. I personally gave up on hosting my website via IPFS myself -- which I did for a brief period of time -- mainly for these exact reasons.
> but for those of us who are bandwidth-constrained or otherwise limited in our access to those technologies
I believe that quite on the contrary, this might benefit these people the most. Imagine not having to do the roundtrip from your phone, to a server on the internet, back to your computer, just to have a synchronized state of your address book available.
Similarly, imagine writing with someone in your city -- let's say Melbourne, Australia -- without your messages first travelling to Utah, USA, and then back again. My gut feeling is that overall congestion on the internet could even be reduced, by allowing more applications to communicate directly within small meshes rather than travel all the way across the globe and back again. That is, as soon as there are more efficient ways to deal with the overhead that is currently breaking IPFS' neck.
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