zinit VS zsh-defer

I don’t use zsh plugin managers myself, but it looks like zinit already had the ability to update itself. Why on earth replace a working solution with a broken one? zi won’t be able to load plugins when the computer is offline for no good legitimate reason that I can possibly think of.

https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/zinit#upgrade-zinit-and...

Am i the only one who feels fish is not worth it despite of hype? Don't get me wrong. I think that fish is really good shell.

BUT...

After adding the following plugins to zsh(before you chime in, it's just adding these lines,not anything configuring much. also it auto bootstraps on new install), I found out that fish is no where near configured zsh.

1) https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/zinit (plugin manager)

2) https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/fast-syntax-highlightin...

3) https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/history-search-multi-wo...

4) https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions

5) https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-completions

6) https://github.com/Aloxaf/fzf-tab

7) any good shell prompt generator like https://github.com/romkatv/powerlevel10k

For example, I use fzf integration for tab completion. Fish's fzf integration is nowhere as good as that of zsh's. Also, posix compat and almost bash compat of zsh is plus.

I acknowledge that zsh isn't perfect shell either and I have tried and failed few times in past to switch to fish. If you provide me compelling reason/s to switch to fish, I am all ears.

You can use a plugin manager that supports oh-my-zsh plugins and libraries such as zinit (my personal favorite). You can also take a look at my personal project zunder-zsh.

If you want everything-and-the-kitchen-sink and don't mind that the original author bailed on the project in a way that was destructive to the Zsh community, then zinit is still around

```sh ❯ zinit self-update; zinit update [self-update] fetching latest changes from main branch From https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/zinit * branch main -> FETCH_HEAD Already up to date. [self-update] compiling zinit via zcompile [self-update] reloading zinit for the current session Assuming --all is passed [self-update] updating zinit repository [self-update] fetching latest changes from main branch Note: updating also unloaded snippets

Cool idea but I'm zinit dependent

Zinit: Really quick plugin manager that loads multiple plugins via lazy loading, in parallel etc. It compiles the plugins upon installation.

You should try zinit

Yeah. My setup is basically zinit with p10k and it's instant even on an old phone on Termux.

The one and only https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/zinit

zsh-defer

1.) It's fast. Like, really fast. 1.) It supports deferred loading via zsh-defer 1.) It supports local plugins as well as ones hosted via a git provider (aka: GitHub, GitLab, BitBucket, etc) 1.) The codebase is simple and easy to understand and contribute to 1.) It supports git branches (with tag/shas on the roadmap) 1.) It supports partial plugin loading such as loading Oh-My-Zsh plugins and Prezto modules without loading the whole framework. 1.) There's an easy migration path from legacy plugin managers like Antigen/Antibody. 1.) Plugins are managed via a simple plugins file that makes it easy to share your config with others. 1.) And lots more

I've recently sped up my startup by using zsh-defer which has worked very well. I think nvm (the variant loaded through zsh) also has an option to load asynchronously without something like zsh-defer

I use zsh-defer for lazy plugin loading and I fork all plugin repos to avoid the same situation as with zinit

You can use this as a plugin for deferred loading like zinit: https://github.com/romkatv/zsh-defer