zinit VS pz

I don’t use zsh plugin managers myself, but it looks like zinit already had the ability to update itself. Why on earth replace a working solution with a broken one? zi won’t be able to load plugins when the computer is offline for no good legitimate reason that I can possibly think of.

https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/zinit#upgrade-zinit-and...

Am i the only one who feels fish is not worth it despite of hype? Don't get me wrong. I think that fish is really good shell.

BUT...

After adding the following plugins to zsh(before you chime in, it's just adding these lines,not anything configuring much. also it auto bootstraps on new install), I found out that fish is no where near configured zsh.

1) https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/zinit (plugin manager)

2) https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/fast-syntax-highlightin...

3) https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/history-search-multi-wo...

4) https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions

5) https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-completions

6) https://github.com/Aloxaf/fzf-tab

7) any good shell prompt generator like https://github.com/romkatv/powerlevel10k

For example, I use fzf integration for tab completion. Fish's fzf integration is nowhere as good as that of zsh's. Also, posix compat and almost bash compat of zsh is plus.

I acknowledge that zsh isn't perfect shell either and I have tried and failed few times in past to switch to fish. If you provide me compelling reason/s to switch to fish, I am all ears.

You can use a plugin manager that supports oh-my-zsh plugins and libraries such as zinit (my personal favorite). You can also take a look at my personal project zunder-zsh.

I don’t like to think too much about it. Antigen stopped development so I jumped onto zinit. Plenty fast and actively maintained. Configuration options are super clunky but once you get the basics right, it works well.

If you want everything-and-the-kitchen-sink and don't mind that the original author bailed on the project in a way that was destructive to the Zsh community, then zinit is still around

```sh ❯ zinit self-update; zinit update [self-update] fetching latest changes from main branch From https://github.com/zdharma-continuum/zinit * branch main -> FETCH_HEAD Already up to date. [self-update] compiling zinit via zcompile [self-update] reloading zinit for the current session Assuming --all is passed [self-update] updating zinit repository [self-update] fetching latest changes from main branch Note: updating also unloaded snippets

Cool idea but I'm zinit dependent

Zinit: Really quick plugin manager that loads multiple plugins via lazy loading, in parallel etc. It compiles the plugins upon installation.

You should try zinit

Yeah. My setup is basically zinit with p10k and it's instant even on an old phone on Termux.

Here is link number 1 - Previous text "pz"

If we copy pz's code and paste it in zshrc, can we call it plugin-manager-less? 😛

Author of the PZ plugin manager here - I used zgen for a long time and it was always super fast, but the author seems to have totally disappeared. Zinit was fast, but complicated as you mentioned. I used antibody for awhile, but the author deprecated it. I switched to Znap but it was unstable at the time and not super fast.