yunohost VS ONLYOFFICE

Pull that old laptop from the closet, the one with the broken screen and keyboard which made you so sad to put it to pasture since it did have plenty of memory and CPU to keep up. Install Debian on the thing followed by Proxmox Virtual Environment (PVE) [1]. Since you have 16GB of RAM in that laptop (or 8 but 16 is nicer) you should be able to run a number of containers [2].

Here's an idea, more or less based on a number of servers I configured for friends and family, based on 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 hardware with 2/4TB USB SSD. Your laptop will offer better performance.

- Create 4 or 5 containers and name them 'auth', 'serve´, 'base', 'backup' and 'mail' (if you want to run your own mail that is, otherwise skip that one). Their functions are:

> auth runs LDAP, Kerberos (if you want that), a central letsencrypt instance which takes care of all your certificate needs and anything else related to authentication and authorisation

> base runs databases, that means Postgresql, Mysql/Mariadb, Redis, RabbitMQ and whatnot - all depending on what you need.

> serve runs services, that means nginx or another web server which is used as a reverse proxy for the other web-related things you want to run: 'cloud' services like Nextcloud with everything that comes with it (e.g. Collaboraoffice or Onlyoffice to replace whatever web-based office things you currently use), communications services like XMPP, application-specific proxies like Invidious/Nitter/Libreddit, media services like Peertube/Airsonic/Ampache, a Wiki like Bookstack, search services like SearxNG, etc. - the size of your server is the limit.

> backup runs Proxmox Backup Server and is used to backup everything to some external drive and to some outside repository.

> mail runs mail services, only if you want to run those. I always say 'do it' but many people have an irrational fear of running their own mail services. That fear is not grounded in truth, running mail is not hard and offers many advantages over hosted solutions.

While it is possible to separate all the mentioned services out into their own containers I think this adds needless complexity for little to no gain. Separating out database services makes sense since those can end up quite taxing and as such might well be moved to their own hardware in some (possibly not too distant) future. Separating out authentication services makes sense since that lowers the attack surface compared to running them together with externally available services. The same goes for mail services which is why I put those in their own container.

Once you've got this up and running you can create a few more containers to play around with. If you just want to try out services something like Yunohost [3] or Caprover [4] can come in handy but I do not see these as viable alternatives to installing and running services which you intend to keep around for a long time.

Of course you can do most of this on a VPS as well but I prefer to keep thing in-house - the fewer dependencies, the better.

[1] https://proxmox.com/en/

[2] containers perform better and take less memory than VMs but if VMs are your thing that is possible as well

[3] https://yunohost.org

[4] https://caprover.com/

Yunohost is one of those mature projects, that's fully open source.

YunoHost, although not Docker-based, is still nice and quite mature.

If you want something like that, then CasaOS is pretty great and i can recommend it, especially for a beginner. There is also Cosmos and Tipi. Yunuhost too but a bit different approach. Oh and Umbrel is a thing...

However you quickly reach the limits of what Umbrel can do, its very basic in its abilities. Of course it depends all on what you (or anyone else) wants to do with it. There is also CasaOS which is very similar to Umbrel but last i compared, Casa offered a bit more features like for example adding your own docker projects easily. There is also Tipi which i must admit i havent taken a closer look at yet. And there is Yunohost which i guess aims at a similar audience but achieves these things differently, still worth mentioning tho.

This looks exciting and definitely something to look out for as an option fkr self-hosting.

Similiar and a little bit more mature is also YunoHost, https://yunohost.org/, or for professional environments, UCS https://www.univention.com/.

I use https://yunohost.org on my Pi, mostly for monitoring other stuff but you can get Nextcloud running just fine with it!

Had never even heard of it.

And their website doesn't help at all - https://www.onlyoffice.com/ - At first, I thought it is selling some kind of add-on for Businesses to use with Microsoft Office. Then I clicked "Get it now" and saw a page that gives me options to download a Docker Image, or Cloud Images or VM Images. What the heck? Then I see the "GET OnlyOffice" link in the navigation menu and go to it - the menu pop-up talks about DocSpace, Enterprise, Workspace etc. etc. and asks to sign-in for cloud. Again, what the heck?? Then I go to the PRODUCT link that also pop-ups lot of options - like - Doc editors to integrate into your business platform .... ??? Then I see the "Desktop and Mobile Apps" option in it and click 'For Desktop'. And finally, here I found what I had been searching for - Get free desktop office suite for document editing and collaboration ( https://www.onlyoffice.com/desktop.aspx ).

When a website is designed to be "Enterprisey" - only targetting and catering to a particular audience, and totally ignores everyone else - I am not surprised it's userbase is limited.

https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DocumentServer/issues/19#issue...

> @ONLYOFFICE, FYI to add bidi-directional support (LTR, RTL and mixed) in Web interface is as simple to add to element dir=auto.

> If I remember correctly, they are using canvas with custom rendering logic. Hence many native browser capabilities might not be available.

Oh, jeez, why? I want to install this just to point a screen reader at it and watch the havoc. Maybe they got that figured out but good lord...

Seems to have no updates since 3 years.

OnlyOffice (IMO) looks the closest like MS Office , is open source (AGPL) and handles the MS Office formats very well.

https://www.onlyoffice.com/

Damn close replacement - onlyoffice. https://www.onlyoffice.com/. Been using it as my excel replacement at work for over a year now. Highly recommend it.

Only Office has a web based version so every device with a browser could run it and is like MS Office

Try OnlyOffice— it’s the one that does the best job at handling MS formats in my experience.

https://www.onlyoffice.com/ and just link your outlook exchange to like thunderbird or something

او شوف برنامج مرة استعملته https://www.onlyoffice.com/

No you can't run office365 without Windows or MacOS on Linux. The closest 2 alternatives that I find pleasing to use is (onlyoffice)[https://www.onlyoffice.com] or libreoffice

Yes. OP should try ONLYOFFICE