yaml-rust VS cue

Either https://github.com/chyh1990/yaml-rust or https://github.com/dtolnay/serde-yaml for parsing the YAML config file that markdownlint uses

Here's the Rust code so far -- the commented portions are my intent via pseudocode. This is part of an implementation where there's a _yaml_hash member that points to yaml_rust's underlying LinkedHashMap. (Also using anyhow's bail! and Result.)

The first thing I did was to find the crate yaml-rust and it seems it isn't really maintained anymore. It has not been updated in a year and there's a lot of PR's and unresolved issues, the CI is broken... So here is my open ended question.

Currently, my main concern with YAML is that, by the spec, comments are not attached to a particular node (see https://yaml.org/spec/1.2/spec.html#id2767100). As a result, a lot of YAML parsers (like https://github.com/yaml/libyaml and https://github.com/chyh1990/yaml-rust) only filter out the comments during the parsing phase. This makes it less than ideal for a use-case where the configuration file is expected to be modified by both programs and humans.

TOML makes it more trivial to associate comments with a node. This is mainly because the language is simpler though, as the spec is not explicit about that (https://github.com/chyh1990/yaml-rust).

I'm continuing to work on https://concise-encoding.org which is a new security-conscious ad-hoc encoding format to replace JSON/XML and friends. I've been at it for 3 years so far and am close to a release.

In a nutshell:

- Edit in text, transmit in binary. One can be seamlessly converted to the other, but binary is far more efficient for processing, storage and transmission, while text is better for humans to read and edit (which happens far less often than the other things).

- Secure by design: Everything is tightly specced and accounted for so that there aren't differences between implementations that can be exploited to compromise your system. https://github.com/kstenerud/concise-encoding/blob/master/ce...

- Real type support because coercing everything into strings sucks (and is another security risk and source of incompatibilities).

XML had a good run but was replaced by JSON which was a big improvement. JSON also had a good run but it's time for it to retire now that the landscape has changed even further: Security and efficiency are the desires of today, and JSON provides neither.

I've got the spec nailed down and can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel for the reference implementation in golang. I still need to come up with a system for schemas, but I'm hoping that https://cuelang.org will fit the bill.

Has anyone taken a look at Cue who can share any experiences?

https://cuelang.org/

It's mentioned on the site as an alternative to Yaml. Recently watched (~half of) this intro to it: https://youtu.be/fR_yApIf6jU

the most interesting summary explanation of cue lang and its differences is from a bug filing - https://github.com/cuelang/cue/issues/33

>CUE is a bit different from the languages used in linguistics and more tailored to the general configuration issue as we've seen it at Google. But under the hood it adheres strictly to the concepts and principles of these approaches and we have been careful not to make the same mistakes made in BCL (which then were copied in all its offshoots). It also means that CUE can benefit from 30 years of research on this topic. For instance, under the hood, CUE uses a first-order unification algorithm, allowing us to build template extractors based on anti-unification (see issue #7 and #15), something that is not very meaningful or even possible with languages like BCL and Jsonnet.

I agree with you. Personally, I think Cue is much better than either YAML, TOML or JSON because it adds the concept of types to the idea of describing configuration.

true, but the tooling and workflow remains the same.

Not sure of any tool that could abstract the details sufficiently to be widely adopted. There is just too much nuance in cloud config.

I'm exploring using CUE (https://cuelang.org) to define TF resources, exporting as JSON for TF. So far it's much nicer