xi-editor VS helix

Have a look at what Lapce uses. The editor is coming along nicely, and iirc, they use the Xi editor as a plug-in.

Raph Levien posted a retrospective about using CRDT’s for collaborative editing in xi-editor here [1]. His conclusion is

“I come to the conclusion that the CRDT is not pulling its (considerable) weight. When I think about a future evolution of xi-editor, I see a much brighter future with a simpler, largely synchronous model, that still of course has enough revision tracking to get good results with asynchronous peers like the language server.”

[1]https://github.com/xi-editor/xi-editor/issues/1187#issuecomm...

Maybe architect kernel as a microservice? There was some text editor developed as a microservice; I don't see why it couldn't work for a FX application or game engine.

A while ago there was a post about Zas Editor, an editor for mac that used parts of Xi as the backend. Since then, the website has been taken down and it's presumably abandoned. There was some apprehension about its licensing but it was cool.

I thought that after the failure of the https://github.com/xi-editor/xi-editor project (which Lapce seems to take inspiration from) people would stop trying it, but looks like it's doing the opposite.

Why not collaborate with developers of existing code editors such as Xi Editor (https://xi-editor.io) or Lapce (https://lapce.dev) instead of making yet another one?

As for lightweight alternatives to Atom, there is also Lite-XL (https://lite-xl.com).

My initial thoughts are using something like the xi-editor or parts from it for text manipulation, some rust GUI framework for rendering, like egui or iced, for more language contextual actions like autocomplete I think I'd have to look into the LSP.

Oh I didn't realize that it might have been a serious question, I'm too unfamiliar with the domain to not make stupid misinterpretations it seems, really sorry about that. Anyway no, that's a good suggestion, I think starting there makes the most sense but I'm having some decision-anxiety about where to start. I think xi-editor is likely to be the best place to start constructing an editor without making the project impossible to finish

This is exciting.

I've not had problems with latency in fish, but the promise of rust is that there is so little latency that it heralds a close to the metal feeling I've not seen in decades.

I think that feeling is visceral and laudable, regardless of the actual runtime profile. It's under-appreciated in the design community. IPC latency is as big a problem in operating systems and programming languages as RPC latency is in cloud systems.

I have no experience with rust, but I do depend on helix daily:

https://github.com/helix-editor/helix

and helix is rust.

I think this kind of open source experiment is exactly what we should be encouraging because it's forward-looking and straightforward to test.

I think the fish community could decide easily by A-B testing the Rust and C++ builds with real users and see how they compare in terms of reliability, performance, regressions, time-to-fix, and so on, assuming the team has the bandwidth to absorb the sideways nature of the work without derailing fish.

To me, rust is more than trendy and I can remember the first time I touched Walter Bright's work decades ago, so I'm open-minded about D too. A simple KLOC or cyclomatic complexity as a proxy to abstraction would be an interesting lens.

Once https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/pull/5420 lands adding folding should be pretty straight forward

There's no way to refer to any context from the current Helix session in the command invocation. If you want to refer to the path of the current file, you have to type it out yourself. Command substitution would make it way more convenient to use the family of shell commands (:sh, :pipe, :insert-output, :append-output). Thankfully there's a Pull Request out for it already.

There was https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/pull/4649 for an integrated terminal. Sadly the author stopped working on that. An integrated terminal does fit in core and something we would like to see eventually. Maybe someone is able to pick that work up.

- **tree explorer** : previous attempt https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/pull/2377 and now this https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/pull/5566 We all need it

[2]: https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/pull/3890