wonnx VS onnx

The two I know of are IREE and Kompute[1]. I'm not sure how much momentum the latter has, I don't see it referenced much. There's also a growing body of work that uses Vulkan indirectly through WebGPU. This is currently lagging in performance due to lack of subgroups and cooperative matrix mult, but I see that gap closing. There I think wonnx[2] has the most momentum, but I am aware of other efforts.

[1]: https://kompute.cc/

[2]: https://github.com/webonnx/wonnx

To a first approximation, Kompute[1] is that. It doesn't seem to be catching on, I'm seeing more buzz around WebGPU solutions, including wonnx[2] and more hand-rolled approaches, and IREE[3], the latter of which has a Vulkan back-end.

[1]: https://kompute.cc/

[2]: https://github.com/webonnx/wonnx

[3]: https://github.com/openxla/iree

There's also a third-party WebGPU implementation: https://github.com/webonnx/wonnx

By experimental I meant e.g. using WGPU to run compute shaders like wonnx, which is working fine but only on a very restricted set of devices and browsers.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35696031 ... TIL about wonnx: https://github.com/webonnx/wonnx#in-the-browser-using-webgpu...

microsoft/onnxruntime: https://github.com/microsoft/onnxruntime

Apache/arrow has language-portable Tensors for cpp: https://arrow.apache.org/docs/cpp/api/tensor.html and rust: https://docs.rs/arrow/latest/arrow/tensor/struct.Tensor.html and Python: https://arrow.apache.org/docs/python/api/tables.html#tensors https://arrow.apache.org/docs/python/generated/pyarrow.Tenso...

Fwiw it looks like the llama.cpp Tensor is from ggml, for which there are CUDA and OpenCL implementations (but not yet ROCm, or a WebGPU shim for use with emscripten transpilation to WASM): https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp/blob/master/ggml.h

Are the recommendable ways to cast e.g. arrow Tensors to pytorch/tensorflow?

FWIU, Rust has a better compilation to WASM; and that's probably faster than already-compiled-to-JS/ES TensorFlow + WebGPU.

What's a fair benchmark?

wonnx has done some fantastic work in this regard, so that's where we plan to start once we get there. In terms of general discussion of alternate backends, see this issue.

> GPU in other ways, such as training ML models and then using them via an inference engine all powered by your local GPU?

Have a look at wonnix https://github.com/webonnx/wonnx

A WebGPU-accelerated ONNX inference run-time written 100% in Rust, ready for native and the web

Looking forward to your WebGPU ML runtime! Also, why not contribute back to WONNX? (https://github.com/webonnx/wonnx)

You can indeed perform inference using WebGPU (see e.g. [1] for GPU-accelerated inference of ONNX models on WebGPU; I am one of the authors).

The point made above is that WebGPU can only be used for GPU's and not really for other types of 'neural accelerators' (like e.g. the ANE on Apple devices).

[1] https://github.com/webonnx/wonnx

Once your model has been trained and validated using Anomalib, the next step is to prepare it for real-time implementation. This is where ONNX (Open Neural Network Exchange) or OpenVINO (Open Visual Inference and Neural network Optimization) comes into play.

ONNX is an open format from the Linux Foundation to represent machine learning models. It is becoming extensively adopted by the Machine Learning community and is compatible with most of the machine learning frameworks like PyTorch, TensorFlow, etc. Converting a model between any of those formats and ONNX is really simple and can be done in most cases with a single command.

ONNX[0], model-as-protosbufs, continuing to gain adoption will hopefully solve this issue.

[0] https://github.com/onnx/onnx

Running inference for large models on CPU is not a new problem and fortunately there has been great development in many different optimization frameworks for speeding up matrix and tensor computations on CPU. We explored multiple optimization frameworks and methods to improve latency, namely TorchScript, BetterTransformer and ONNX.

ONNX is a format for representing machine learning models in a portable way. Additionally, ONNX models can be easily optimized and thus become smaller and faster.

I would say onnx.ai [0] provides more information about ONNX for those who aren’t working with ML/DL.

[0] https://onnx.ai

It's not clear why you thing this sub is appropriate for some third party system with a Python interface. Why don't you try their discussion group: https://github.com/onnx/onnx/discussions

This kind of indirection through standardisation is pretty common to make compatibility between different kinds of software components easier. Some other good examples are the LSP project from Microsoft and ONNX to represent machine learning models. The first provides a standard so that IDEs don't have to re-invent the weel for every programming language. The latter decouples training frameworks from inference frameworks. Going back to WSGI, you can find a pretty extensive rationale for the WSGI standard here if interested.