Apache Wicket VS PrimeFaces

Sort of sounds like Apache Wicket (https://wicket.apache.org/). I used it for a few projects in the mid-late 2000s. I really liked it being server side and the concept of having object-oriented HTML (code paired with HTML snippets). I haven't had a need to use it since 2014, so haven't kept up with the project.

You can use Java for Backend and Frontend. A relative new kid on the block for Frontend is Qute. The general keyword you are searching for is Java Templating Engine. Specific examples would be Thymeleaf or FreeMarker. There are some framework, which offer a lot more than templating like Vaadin or Wicket. Some are just specifications like Jakarta Faces with some of their implementations MyFaces or Mojarra.

Perhaps, a good competitor for JSF is Apache Wicket.

I have used https://wicket.apache.org/ in the past and I think it matches your needs. It's a simple mvc that focuses on the actual java code writing and uses html only on the layout of your components in your page.

Is this the Wicket you're referring to? https://wicket.apache.org/

What's the best intro you know to how it's components work, and the benefits and tradeoffs over other approaches?

You should consider Apache Wicket. It is widely used for business apps.

I think Apache Wicket takes a similar approach for Java? https://wicket.apache.org/

I like the approach, and it's good to see more projects in this space.

I believe Wicket is somewhat similar (and still actively developed).

https://wicket.apache.org/

> I use Quasar and Vue. This is my hammer for all nails, no matter the size of the nail.

Vue is great, especially with their Composition API (https://vuejs.org/guide/extras/composition-api-faq.html#why-...) and something like Pinia for state management, without the hassles of something like Redux: https://pinia.vuejs.org/

As for components, I really liked the idea behind PrimeVue/PrimeReact/PrimeNG/PrimeFaces (https://www.primefaces.org/) because I'm not aware of any other attempts of creating components that actually work similarly across different frameworks/libraries and it's really good because your skills carry over pretty well if you ever find yourself exploring a slightly different stack.

For what it's worth, the components also work decently (there's a whole list https://primevue.org/autocomplete/) and look okay (with various themes available, https://primevue.org/theming/), plus you can get examples (https://blocks.primevue.org/). Oh yeah, they also have their CSS utilities (a bit like Tailwind, https://primeflex.org/installation) and icons (https://primevue.org/icons).

I actually look forwards to the day where most of these concerns are less of an artisanal craft but rather a set of boring and well known things that just work well for quickly putting together a CRUD or whatever you need.

That said, I also explored VueRequest for handling network requests a bit more easily (https://www.attojs.org/guide/gettingStarted.html) and VueUse for stuff like LocalStorage (https://vueuse.org/guide/) and while it doesn't feel like I'm building a crappy alternative to Vuex and the complexity is reasonably manageable and the usability present, occasionally it all still feels a bit annoying to deal with - reactivity, ways to shuffle around data that I get from the back end, props, various bugs... so it's not all good, but still less complex than some of the things I've seen with React or Angular.

Visit the changelog for the complete list of changes.

Used this years ago for JSF apps https://www.primefaces.org/ I know they've kept it updated for current angular/react/vue JS front ends, but I've never used those. Might be worth a look.

It might be related to this

PrimeFaces (PrimeFaces official page has implementations for Angular, React and Vue)

> I'd like to hear any strategy one has to deal with that. I have taken up Figma and Sketch so I can meet them "where they are" but still, plenty of disagreements can happen.

One option would be to use a premade design system or a component library/framework that gives you a consistent look and feel, most of those design decisions having a good enough baseline. Then just add a color theme and some branding on top of it and call it a day. It will also increase your development velocity and save you from some pixel pushing.

For an example of this, consider PrimeFaces: https://www.primefaces.org/

They have working components that are good enough (and support multiple themes, if need be), their own icon solution and also a CSS utility library, including stuff like layouts. For most projects it'll be enough to create something that works and looks okay.

> A UI library for React, Vue, Svelte, Solid, whatever... Imagine being able to have a component library that works with any of them (or none of them).

That seems to be a worthy goal, but I don't see that being usable in prod projects, at least not in the near future.

The closest I've seen is something like PrimeFaces, which has components for Angular, React and Vue, which is the majority of projects I've seen out there: https://www.primefaces.org (I've also used the Java JSF variety, it was... sometimes problematic)

If you need something that works the same (or as close as you can get) across multiple front end frameworks/libraries, while still having most of the components you could possibly want, I don't think there are many other options out there.

For example:

- Angular calendar: https://www.primefaces.org/primeng/calendar

- React calendar: https://www.primefaces.org/primereact/calendar/

- Vue calendar: https://www.primefaces.org/primevue/calendar

I liked Prime ( https://www.primefaces.org/ )