wgpu-rs VS rust-gpu

You could start with one of examples from wgpu and tinker with it to see if that's your thing. Ie. copy hello-triangle and add more triangles / make them move, etc.

wgpu-rs (https://github.com/gfx-rs/wgpu-rs) is probably closer to what you're looking for, it's a "high level wrapper" over wgpu-core (Which implements "WebGPU", an upcoming browser API for graphics using gfx-rs, and AIUI "implements" means this is what a browser might use to actually call a graphics API when javascript uses webGPU, although if you're compiling for wasm it could just call the browser APIs). It can run natively, ignore the fact it has "Web" in the name

rust-gpu) is used for compiling a compute shader written in Rust to SPIR-V. wgpu-rs is used natively for running the GPU computation.

For web assembly there is the unofficial bevy_webgl2 plugin. Official bevy web assembly support would probably use the wgpu webgl backend, which still needs some work, and is currently untested in bevy.

We let wgpu https://github.com/gfx-rs/wgpu-rs handle our graphics backend abstraction, so our OpenGL support will come whenever they implement and release it. Currently, it seems to be a WIP.

It's the same thing, the Rust implementation is just called[wgpu](https://wgpu.rs/)

Same as with GLSL, isn't it? What we do in wgpu-rs examples, and that's something I expect to see more widely, is having an integration test that just parses all the WGSL in the project and reports errors. Ideally though, we'd have a set of IDE plugins to do the parsing and report errors right where you type the code. We'd appreciate any help to get these started!

Also you could use an existing cross-platform graphics library, e.g. wgpu-rs. It supports Vulkan, Metal, DirectX, OpenGL and WebGPU. Oh and it seems to allow switching backends at compile-time via the WGPU_BACKEND environment variable, so maybe check out how they're doing it.

Sounds cool, but this requires yet another language to learn[0]. As someone who only has limited knowledge in this space, could someone tell me how comparable is the compute functionality of rust-gpu[1], where I can just write rust?

[0] https://github.com/Hugobros3/shady#language-syntax

[1] https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu

I don't do anything related to data science, but I feel like doing it in Rust would be nice.

You get operator overloading, so you can have ergonomic matrix operations that are typed also. Processing data on the CPU is fast, and crates like https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu make it very ergonomic to leverage the GPU.

I like this library for creating typed coordinate spaces for graphics programming (https://github.com/servo/euclid), I imagine something similar could be done to create refined types for matrices so you don't do matrix multiplication matrices of invalid sizes

Do you mean rust-gpu?

And https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu/tree/main/examples with the wgpu runner (here it runs the compute shader)

I don't know how major they are considered, but Embark Studios is doing quite a bit of Rust in the open source space, most notably (IMO) rust-gpu and kajiya

The examples in the rust-gpu repository are a good place to start

There's another project that's similar that's being used by an actual game company: https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu

They see specific advantages here that would outweigh that negative. It's not my space (I play games, but know next to nothing about graphics programming), but there's at least one argument in the other direction.

Could this approach work for compute shaders (GPGPU) as well? So far, I think https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu is the state of the art in that area, but it adds a specific Rust compiler backend for generating SPIR-V rather than leaving that up to the driver. That seems more complicated than it needs to be... but maybe it has advantages too? Thoughts?

https://github.com/embarkstudios/rust-gpu Allows you to create shaders (kernals) in Rust.

Also Embark Studios (formers DICE people) is doing a lot of work with Rust, all open source like Rust GPU https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu