urn VS Penlight

Compare urn vs Penlight and see what are their differences.

urn

Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua (by SquidDev)

Penlight

A set of pure Lua libraries focusing on input data handling (such as reading configuration files), functional programming (such as map, reduce, placeholder expressions,etc), and OS path management. Much of the functionality is inspired by the Python standard libraries. (by lunarmodules)
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urn Penlight
6 7
362 1,815
- 1.4%
0.0 5.7
over 5 years ago 17 days ago
Common Lisp Lua
BSD 3-clause "New" or "Revised" License MIT License
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urn

Posts with mentions or reviews of urn. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-02-08.
  • Using other languages
    6 projects | /r/ComputerCraft | 8 Feb 2023
    There's many different languages that can compile to Lua: - TypeScript is probably the most well-known and most compatible language for Lua. The TypeScriptToLua compiler lets you compile TypeScript code into Lua with a mostly 1:1 conversion. You can use the @jackmacwindows/craftos-types and @jackmacwindows/cc-types NPM packages to add typing declarations for CraftOS APIs and modules. Alternatively, use my template repo for a more ready-to-go setup. - Haxe was built with compilation to Lua in mind, and so you can write code for it and have it run just fine in CC. There's some declarations for it available online, and I also have my own typing set for it (which I should really upload somewhere - DM me if you want it for now). - C# can also compile to Lua, but it's a bit tough to get working right in CC, as it has a huge default library and abuses the global table in a way that CC has trouble with. However, it's possible to use, and I've gotten it working in the past (unfortunately, I don't know how anymore). - Urn is a Lisp dialect that was built by two CC devs and was designed to run in CC. However, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're good with functional programming.
  • C-Lisp Implementations for microcontrollers?
    4 projects | /r/lisp | 1 Dec 2021
    Also, if the microcontroller you're working with is an ESP32 chip, you may be able to use use one of the lisp-to-Lua transpiled languages (urn or fennel) with something like Lua RTOS or NodeMCU. Not entirely sure how well this works in practice, but in theory it should be possible. Of the two, Fennel's probably more likely to behave well when used like this because it's more like a thin translation layer on top of Lua, but Urn's probably going to feel more comfortable to use because it feels like this weird mix of CL and Racket design.
  • Interesting or distinctive lisps?
    13 projects | /r/lisp | 29 Nov 2021
    Urn Lisp, A Lisp implementation on top of Lua: https://urn-lang.com
  • Trying Fennel for GTK apps and it's surprisingly good
    5 projects | /r/lisp | 20 Sep 2021
    I don't know how much of reloading you need. I did something like that many moons ago. See here: https://github.com/SquidDev/urn/issues/12
  • Urn for CC?
    2 projects | /r/ComputerCraft | 28 Jul 2021
    Clone Urn: wget run https://gist.githubusercontent.com/SquidDev/e0f82765bfdefd48b0b15a5c06c0603b/raw/clone.lua https://github.com/SquidDev/urn.git (or similar)

Penlight

Posts with mentions or reviews of Penlight. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-12-27.
  • Pluto, a Modern Lua Dialect
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Dec 2023
    To have enough batteries you kind of just need penlight[1] and maybe luastd. Of course there's posix, lfs, socket, luasec and you're semi set.

    [1]: https://lunarmodules.github.io/Penlight/

  • I love that Lua can access file so simply using io.open, can Lua be used to delete, copy and paste folders?
    1 project | /r/lua | 4 Apr 2023
    https://github.com/lunarmodules/Penlight provides a bunch of functionality for stuff like that.
  • [discussion] Why don't more (any?) plugin authors use penlight?
    3 projects | /r/neovim | 30 Sep 2022
    However, there's already a widely known, well-tested library in the lua community called penlight that covers a lot of lua's "missing" functionality. It's got sane string manipulation, ergonomic tables, a basic class mechanism, functional programming, enums, exceptions, path manipulation, etc...
  • What would be the significant benefits if one would develop equivalent libraries that are available for Python for Lua/Nelua?
    4 projects | /r/lua | 18 Sep 2022
    Lua is a small language and its "standard library" is very minimal. Lua's intended for embedding so usually the host program provides a broader standard library by exposing functions to lua. However, there are several standard library packages for lua: batteries and lume are focused on gamedev; Penlight aims at bringing the breadth of python's stdlib to lua; plenary.nvim for nvim plugins; and probably more for other domains. I'd definitely recommend checking these out to help get closer to functionality level of most other languages (I use both lume and batteries, but dropped penlight awhile back because I found some implementations confusing/overcomplicated/inconsistent).
  • Thoughts on LUA?
    4 projects | /r/gamedev | 13 Apr 2022
    Lua is a small language and its "standard library" is very minimal. This was one of my initial roadblocks. Lua's intended for embedding so usually the host program provides a broader standard library by exposing functions to lua. However, there are several standard library packages for lua: batteries, Penlight, or the aforementioned lume. I'd definitely recommend checking these out to help get closer to functionality level of most other languages (I use both lume and batteries, but dropped penlight awhile back).
  • Trying Fennel for GTK apps and it's surprisingly good
    5 projects | /r/lisp | 20 Sep 2021
    As for batteries, there's things like penlight which comes with a huge set of pure Lua libraries inspired by Python. And, well, there's Fennel libraries with macros and more lispy style APIs.
  • Lua's Lack of “Batteries”
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Jan 2021
    I'm very surprised there was no mention of Penlight in that article. Penlight, a supplemental standard library for Lua that is heavily inspired by Python's own standard library, has been around for years now:

    https://github.com/lunarmodules/Penlight

What are some alternatives?

When comparing urn and Penlight you can also consider the following projects:

Fennel - Lua Lisp Language

luafun - Lua Fun is a high-performance functional programming library for Lua designed with LuaJIT's trace compiler in mind.

LiveSplit - A sleek, highly customizable timer for speedrunners.

Vermintide-2-Source-Code - Decompiled scripts from Warhammer: Vermintide 2.

medley - The main repo for the Medley Interlisp project. Wiki, Issues are here. Other repositories include maiko (the VM implementation) and Interlisp.github.io (web site sources)

luaforwindows - Lua for Windows is a 'batteries included environment' for the Lua scripting language on Windows. NOTICE: Looking for maintainer.

liz - Lisp-flavored general-purpose programming language (based on Zig)

lua-vips - Lua binding for the libvips image processing library

cakelisp - Metaprogrammable, hot-reloadable, no-GC language for high perf programs (especially games), with seamless C/C++ interop

luakit - Fast, small, webkit based browser framework extensible by Lua.

flitter - A Livesplit-inspired speedrunning split timer for Linux/macOS terminal. Supports global hotkeys.

batteries - Reusable dependencies for games made with lua (especially with love)