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timl
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Servo, the parallel browser engine written in Rust
A quick test-run on the pages linked from the hackernews front page:
hackernews svg logo doesn't render
youtube embed on the servo homepage doesn't load
https://github.com/tpope/timl -> reloads/rerenders infinitely, uses 100% of 1 core
https://akrzemi1.wordpress.com/2023/04/23/the-obvious-final-... -> hangs while loading the page, uses 100% of 1 core
https://equalitytime.github.io/FlowersForTuring/ -> loads/renders fine
https://github.com/reactos/reactos -> reloads/rerenders infinitely, uses 100% of 1 core
https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2023/05/27/dolphin-steam-indefi... -> loads fine but css rendering/placement is off on breadcrumbs and article
https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2023/05/23/new-xen-updates-on-risc-v... -> very long load then hangs while loading javascript/content.
Not a great batting average - seems like sites need to be purpose built for this or leverage little/no modern javascript libraries for it to render accurately. Servo has been in this state for the last 5 or 6 years since I first discovered it.
- TimL: Clojure-like Lisp dialect that runs on and compiles down to Vimscript
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Let it snow in Emacs! (now with wind, varying intensity, and accumulation on terrain)
Hey, they have a lisp, it’s a start!
Fennel
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Pluto, a Modern Lua Dialect
Eh it's not just luajit and luajit didn't create that problem either. It's a symptom of lua actually succeeding at its design goal of being easily embedded as an extension language. A significant number of incompatible runtimes are more popular than the most recent puc lua, including I believe the older official lua 5.2 released in 2011.
I've done a fair bit of professional lua development and I don't think I've ever written standalone up-to-date puc lua except maybe for some tooling & scripts. It's such a small language and used in such a way that the runtime, distribution method, and available APIs have much more impact on your use (and compatibility) than the version.
Virtually everyone shipping a lua environment is also shipping changes to it that make it a unique target, if only extensions to the standard library. This is why I think syntax layer-only approach like fennel's is the correct choice for improving on lua. It mirrors lua's runtime semantics exactly, and allows you to access the implementation peculiars on their own terms and so can just be run on time of any lua system.
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LÖVE: a framework to make 2D games in Lua
Just learned about https://fennel-lang.org/ , could have probably used that as well to avoid Lua.
May be used with Fennel if you prefer a more lisp-alike programming language.
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The Bipolar Lisp Programmer
> I’m positive that there is a Lispy language out there (actually in existence, or the aether) that is appropriate for embedded work, but the constraints of the target make it difficult to envision.
Perhaps Fennel* fits the bill?
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The Future of the Vim Project
I've also seen neovim plugins written in fennel [0], so if you want something lispy, that's possible now.
[0]: a Lisp that compiles to Lua, https://github.com/bakpakin/Fennel
- Qual a linguagem que vocês mais gostam de programar?
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TimL: Clojure-like Lisp dialect that runs on and compiles down to Vimscript
Something similar: Fennel (https://fennel-lang.org/) is a lisp that compiles into Lua, which nvim can use as plugins, so you can write nvim plugins in a lisp. Aniseed (https://github.com/Olical/aniseed) makes this really easy.
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Announcing automation-service: write and schedule home automation scripts in Lua
If you want a more FP language on the Lua runtime, you might be interested in Fennel. I wrote a post about adding Fennel compiler to a hslua interpreter a while back, which might be useful for you.
- 916 Days of Emacs
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What's your opinion on Lua programming language?
There's fennel if you're a fan of LISP syntax. I like embedding lua because it's light and easy and doesn't re-engineer itself every six months like python; but I agree, the lua syntax certainly is fugly.
What are some alternatives?
janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm
urn - Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua
nvim-lspconfig - Quickstart configs for Nvim LSP
Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32
lua-languages - Languages that compile to Lua
webassembly-lua - Write and compile WebAssembly code with Lua
nvim-treesitter - Nvim Treesitter configurations and abstraction layer
hy - A dialect of Lisp that's embedded in Python
Carp - A statically typed lisp, without a GC, for real-time applications.
awesome-lisp-companies - Awesome Lisp Companies
kaboom.js - 💥 JavaScript game library
awesome-clojure-likes - Curated list of Clojure-like programming languages.