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Mojo is now available on Mac
Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.
Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).
But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.
- Why Fennel?
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Two-tier programming language
Terra is the language you're looking for: https://terralang.org/
- Using Lua with C++
- Bog – small, strongly typed, embeddable language
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Nelua, AOT statically typed Lua
Wow, amazing stuff. I love Lua, it was how I learned programming as a kid. Coincidently from the same world as the author. Open Tibia.
The author made a custom client (https://github.com/edubart/otclient) for the game that is still very much in active use by thousands of players. He's a very skilled developer.
Great to see AOT typed Lua, I know of the other solutions: Luau, Teal, TypeScriptToLua, Terra, etc., but this one is my favorite so far.
Love the simple compilation to C (and WASM support via Emscripten). Though Terra's JIT is enticing and good replacement for LuaJIT, this is for embedded systems, it's a good replacement for Lua PUC-Rio.
The World:
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Idris: A Language for Type-Driven Development
Terra is a language that can also do that, and uses Lua as the metaprogramming language. Types are just Lua values.
But unfortunately, there's a lot of work left kind of half-baked so using the language is a pain... if someone invested a lot of time to make Terra work properly and added some tooling around it, wrote proper docs and so on, it would be a really interesting language.
- OOP in C
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Noob question about what's possible with comptime
(I am slightly familiar with a language called Terra (https://terralang.org), which couples C with Lua, where the Lua is basically used as the metaprogramming layer ... sort of like comptime in Zig. And making an SOA data structure is the kind of thing you could do in Lua in Terra. So that was partly the basis for my question).
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Upcoming RISC-V laptop promises free silicon upgrades
> why can't the hardware designer do something simple and clean
If it was easy, it would not need firmware in the first place. Firmware is there because people expect certain features and quality of life. See softmodems.
> write some assembly (without abusing the assembler preprocessor...)
You want https://terralang.org/ and not "just C"/"just Assembler" instead ?
pallene
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LuaX: A Lua Dialect with JSX
It would have been nice if LuaX was written in Lua.
Forking Pallene (https://github.com/pallene-lang/pallene) would introduce:
- Which for loop method is faster
- Using Lua with C++
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Bog – small, strongly typed, embeddable language
Terra and Nelua are both very different in goals than Teal. Teal is literally gradual types integrated into Lua keeping as many of Lua's idioms as possible (to a fault[1]). Terra and Nelua are both very metaprogrammable systems programming languages. Nelua's goals are primarily to soften C's rough edges, comparable to something like Nim.
There's another one you missed in Pallene[2]. But again, it's goal was to optimize the stack sharing involved in using the C API. It also adds types though and maintains Lua idioms as much as possible.
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Nelua, AOT statically typed Lua
That was somewhat of an entertaining read.
> Terra is C if you replaced the preprocessor with Lua.
This is what is written on the tin.
PUC made there own version of Terra
Pallene http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/docs/Gualandi-2020-SCP.pd...
https://github.com/pallene-lang/pallene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3inzGGFefg
This is a good writeup on all the Alt-Luas https://injuly.in/blog/gsoc/
- data types in function definition
- You can make Lua compiled/statically typed using Teal... It's like TypeScript, but for Lua!
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Lua, a Misunderstood Language
Odd to suggest that if they're interested in Lua, that they should check out Moonscript which is a different language altogether (although it compiles to Lua). But if you insist, something a little more Lua-ish is Teal[1] (gradual types ala TypeScript) or Pallene[2] (companion typed subset of Lua meant to generate optimized C libraries for use with Lua).
- Interesting discussion about lua on Hacker News
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Upcoming interview with Roberto Ierusalimschy
You might be thinking of Pallene (previously named Titan) https://github.com/pallene-lang/pallene
What are some alternatives?
nelua-lang - Minimal, efficient, statically-typed and meta-programmable systems programming language heavily inspired by Lua, which compiles to C and native code.
LuaJIT - Mirror of the LuaJIT git repository
luau - A fast, small, safe, gradually typed embeddable scripting language derived from Lua
zig - General-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal, and reusable software.
ravi - Ravi is a dialect of Lua, featuring limited optional static typing, JIT and AOT compilers
tl - The compiler for Teal, a typed dialect of Lua
titan - The Titan programming language
moonscript - :crescent_moon: A language that compiles to Lua
Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32
luajit2 - OpenResty's Branch of LuaJIT 2