telepresence VS garden

I trialled Telepresence[0] for my company 2 or 3 years ago, that does this sort of thing very slickly. It didn't quite work for us back then, I forget why, but I imagine it's come along a way since then.

[0] https://www.telepresence.io

How does this compare to Telepresence?

seems to be very similar to https://www.telepresence.io

If they're web services you work on, you might try https://www.telepresence.io/ (Requires something to be installed in the cluster though, easily done).

Depending on the context, the type of code you do, you may want to also look into the sister protocol to LSP, DAP—debug adaptor protocol. It really depends on your context whether local dev, dev against a remote server, and if the latter whether you run under GCP and thus have the “Snapshot Debugger”, or under Kubernetes with something like Ambassadar/Emissary and thus can run Telepresence, whether you do local or remote Docker and thus most IDEs don't necessarily magically work especially if the containers are competently locked down, etc.

If you're on Kubernetes remotely, Telepresence [0] might be worth a look.

[0] https://www.telepresence.io

Sounds Like Telepresence (https://github.com/telepresenceio/telepresence) which intercepts traffic to a service on the cluster and directs it to your local environment.

This seems to be very similar to Telepresence, which I just couldn't get to work for us.

What the difference with okteto and telepresence ?

Hey there! Have you tried garden.io for caching? We also cache tests. Pretty much anything that's possible to cache. We're open source at https://github.com/garden-io/garden

To add to what's already been said: If you think about it, CI pipelines are typically a complete description of how your system is built, tested, and deployed.

Which is pretty fantastic except for how walled off they are. You can't really re-use these descriptions for e.g. development, they're not vendor agnostic, and they only way to run them is by pushing your code.

Maybe it's a silly analogy but it's almost like being a web dev that doesn't have a browser and needs to send their code to a friend who can tell them if that font size looks good.

I think we're way over due for freeing these "blueprints" of our system from the confines of CI and making them portable and flexible. And containers are the technology that's enabling that.

Full disclaimer (as always): I work at Garden[0] where we're also solving that problem but taking a slightly different approach to Dagger (it's still a DAG). Garden config is declarative and the jobs (we call them actions) have a semantic meaning. You can e.g. have a Build action of type container or a Deploy action of type Helm and Garden will figure out what to do with it.

[0] https://github.com/garden-io/garden

Yes, there's us over at https://github.com/garden-io/garden! We're big believers in pipelines that run anywhere. I even made a short little video that should give you the gist. [1]

Some of the short-list of differences: we use YAML for our configuration language, Dagger can use full-fat languages to define its pipelines. Our feature scope is broader: you can use us to vend IDP-like stacks to your developers if you're a Platform Team; we make development with remote Kubernetes clusters very easy, including all the remote image builds; and we have a number of integrations so you can bring your IaC tool of choice (Pulumi, Terraform) into your pipeline and set up service -> infra dependencies.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFnan6s2cDg

Me too. In fact Garden (dev tooling for the Kubernetes)[0] is a Berlin start-up with three Icelandic founders.

And if I'm not mistaken, two of us worked briefly with @halldorel (above commenter) at an earlier Icelandic start-up. It's a small world (if you're Icelandic).

[0] https://garden.io

There are dedicated tools just for that. Apart from skaffold check also tilt.dev, garden.io, devspace.sh, okteto.com

Would appreciate any insights on garden.io. Thanks.

Telepresence, tilt, garden.io, okteto, skaffold etc.

- https://garden.io/

haha, do my pictures give off a strong not-web-dev vibe? Either way your right, I'm focusing on devxp and automation for kubernetes. Because my work is open source you can see it here https://github.com/garden-io/garden (btw we're also hiring another open core dev like me)