tantivy VS nushell

Tantivy - a full-text indexing library written in Rust. Has a great performance and featureset.

By this I presume you mean build a search index that can retrieve results based on keywords? I know certain databases use Lucene to build a keyword-based index on top of unstructured blobs of data. Another alternative is to use Tantivy (https://github.com/quickwit-oss/tantivy), a Rust version of Lucene, if building search indices via Java isn't your cup of tea :)

Both libraries offer multilingual support for keywords, I believe, so that's a benefit to vector search where multilingual embedding models are rather expensive.

We also implemented our schemaless columnar storage optimized for object storage.

The inverted index and columnar storage are part of tantivy [0], which is the fastest search library out there. We maintain it and we decided to build the distributed engine on top of it.

[0] tantivy github repo: https://github.com/quickwit-oss/tantivy

The issue for geo search is here: https://github.com/quickwit-oss/tantivy/issues/44

Search index : Custom-built using tantivy.

The roaring bitmap variant is used only for the optional index (1 docid => 0 or 1 value) in the columnar storage (DocValues), not for the inverted index. Since this is used for aggregation, some queries may be a full scan.

The inverted index in tantivy uses bitpacked values of 128 elements with a skip index on top.

> I didn't follow the rest of your comment, select is what EF is good at, every other data structure needs a lot more scanning once you land on the right chunk. With BMI2 you can also use the PDEP instruction to accelerate the final select on a 64-bit block

The select for the sparse codec is a [simple array index access](https://github.com/quickwit-oss/tantivy/blob/main/columnar/s...), that is hard to beat. Compression is not good near the 5k threshold though.

Hi /r/rust, I’m a SWE on Etsy’s Retrieval Systems team where we’re building a platform based on rust and tantivy (https://github.com/quickwit-oss/tantivy). We’re looking to bring two new engineers onto the team.

Quick Search: Easily find specific notes with Velo's fuzzy-search feature, powered by tantivy. tantivy might have been a little overkill, but it was really easy to integrate.

These are just three small examples of what this shell written in Rust allows. The features are many and many more, but I'll leave it up to you to discover and enjoy them; I'm currently playing around with it and it's giving me a lot of satisfaction and immediacy, now it has a fixed place among the tools I use when working! The project is Open Source, so if you want to contribute, I invite you, as always, to do so, I leave you the link to the repo here!

Any thoughts on fish as compared to nushell [0]? It's similar to PowerShell in its philosophy and is also written in Rust.

[0] https://github.com/nushell/nushell

> In PowerShell, structured output is the default and it seems to work very well.

PowerShell goes a step beyond JSON, by supporting actual mutable objects. So instead of just passing through structured data, you effectively pass around opaque objects that allow you to go back to earlier pipeline stages, and invoke methods, if I understand correctly: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsof....

I'm rather fond of wrappers like jc and libxo, and experimental shells like https://www.nushell.sh/. These still focus on passing data, not objects with executable methods. On some level, I find this comfortable: Structured data still feels pretty Unix-like, if that makes sense? If I want actual objects, then it's probably time to fire up Python or Ruby.

Knowing when to switch from a shell script to a full-fledged programming language is important, even if your shell is basically awesome and has good programming features.

Maybe if the "popular" shells, but http://www.nushell.sh/ is looking better and better

Yeah agreed, especially now that PowerShell is available cross-platform.

Nushell[1] also seems like a promising alternative, but I haven’t had a chance to play with it yet.

[1]: https://www.nushell.sh/

I also discovered an existing discussion[1] related to this topic which includes a link[2] to a "helper to call nushell nuon/json/yaml commands from bash/fish/zsh" and a comment[3] that the current nushell dev focus is "on getting the experience inside nushell right and [we] probably won't be able to dedicate design time to get the interface of native Nu commands with an outside POSIX shell right and stable.".

[0] https://gitlab.com/RancidBacon/notes_public/-/blob/main/note...

[1] "Expose some commands to external world #6554": https://github.com/nushell/nushell/issues/6554

[2] https://github.com/cruel-intentions/devshell-files/blob/mast...

[3] https://github.com/nushell/nushell/issues/6554#issuecomment-...

I appreciate what projects like Nushell and Murex are trying to address, but having a saner scripting language and passing structured data in pipelines is not worth the drawbacks for me.

For one, Bash scripting is not so bad if you set some sane defaults and use ShellCheck. Sure, it has its quirks, but all languages do. Even so, the same golden rule applies: use a "real" programming language if your problem exceeds a certain level of complexity. This is relative and will depend on your discomfort threshold, but using the right tool for the job is always a good practice. No matter how good the shell language is, I would hesitate to write and maintain a complex project in it.

And for general QoL improvements with interactive use, Zsh is a fine shell, while still being POSIX compatible.

[1]: https://github.com/nushell/nushell/blob/main/crates/nu-comma...

[2]: https://github.com/nushell/nushell/issues/5027

[3]: https://github.com/nushell/nushell/issues/9310

I found nushell (https://www.nushell.sh) to be an impressive replacement "bash" for Windows

In terms of philosophy, think "Powershell but actually intuitive" : Every data is structured but command names are what you expect them to be. I usually don't even need to look at the documentation.

I liked it so much that I also replaced my shell on Linux with it, so I have the same terminal experience across all OSes