swift VS lobster

Because of C/C++ interop, and integration with CMake, you can just add Swift to a Zephyr project and it pretty much Just Works. [The docs](https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/main/docs/EmbeddedSwift/...) should mostly apply to the Zephyr SDK as well.

Fortunately, the Observation framework is part of the Swift 5.9 standard library. We can learn more information by examining its source code.

They do! See https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/main/docs/LibraryEvoluti...

You can also see an example of what a different high level language integration with Swift ABI looks like here: https://github.com/dotnet/designs/blob/main/proposed/swift-i...

So is differentiable Swift a package for Swift or is it part of the Swift standard library? The video says go to swift.org but I can't find any info about differentiable Swift on that site.

Swift's Differentiable Programming Manifesto. Swift has a powerful differentiable programming component, integrated with the compiler.

You can do the same thing the other way around - https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/main/docs/Android.md.

Codable (along with other derived conformances like Equatable, Hashable, and RawRepresentable) is indeed built in to the compiler[0], but unlike Serde, it operates during type-checking on a fully-constructed AST (with access to type information), manipulating the AST to insert code. Because it operates at a later stage of compilation and at a much higher level (with access to type information), the work necessary is significantly less.

With ongoing work for Swift macros, it may eventually be possible to rip this code out of the compiler and rewrite it as a macro, though it would need to be a semantic macro[1] rather a syntactic one, which isn't currently possible in Swift[2].

[0] https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/main/lib/Sema/DerivedCon...

`Int` is a regular struct with a single stored property of type `Builtin.Word` . But the latter is a magical compiler built-in. Source for integer types is generated from this template - https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/9da65ca0a15fdf341649c994b0a77ec3b71f2687/stdlib/public/core/IntegerTypes.swift.gyb

I think lobster does this.

"Compile time reference counting / lifetime analysis / borrow checker."[1]

"Reference Counting with cycle detection at exit, 95% of reference count ops removed at compile time thanks to lifetime analysis."[1]

[1] https://strlen.com/lobster/

There is another language, Lobster, that uses lifetime analysis like Rust, but IIUC infers lifetimes completely automatically. It looks like the idea is still experimental - I'm interested to see how it goes.

I think the ability to open a window and do graphical stuff is actually pretty underrated in core language functionality. There's a few game-oriented programming languages like Lobster that put windowing and graphics in the core language functionality, and I think it's pretty neat. The biggest downside is that it's a lot to bite off, because you'll probably want to have standardized API functionality for a whole host of things like font rendering, image loading, etc.

The actual game itself, yes. Based on this open source project though which provides the language its written in and core engine tech: https://github.com/aardappel/lobster

I'm keeping an eye on Lobster though. It fixes most of Python's problems. It's way faster, has proper static typing, the import system is sane, etc.

Lobster (https://strlen.com/lobster/) appears to at least do lifetime analysis to reduce refcounting. I'm not sure about automatic interior mutability. I feel like there's a keyword here that can help find other compilers with similar features.

Also, can I introduce you to https://strlen.com/lobster/, a garbage collected language made for game development by (and primarily for) the one and only Wouter "aardappel" van Oortmerssen?

I would like to make it work to some degree like Rust with a borrow checker, and have optional static typing (with type inference wherever it can). Other sources of inspiration, lobster lang, and dart. It is going to (eventually...) compile to several places like dart (browser, iOS, android, linux, etc.). After I've created the AST, I've gone straight to code generation, because that's the easy part IME. But now have to insert the "middle" and do typechecking/borrowchecking/inference/other checking. This is for an imperative-style language.

Over the ~12 years of Lobster (https://strlen.com/lobster/) 's existence, features that were removed (in this order): * Lexical scoping. * Icon style backtracking. * Small-talk like syntax. * Dynamic Typing. * Multimethods. * Frame based state (like FRP). * Co-routines.