subleq VS swapforth

Compare subleq vs swapforth and see what are their differences.

subleq

16-bit SUBLEQ CPU running eForth - just for fun (by howerj)

swapforth

Swapforth is a cross-platform ANS Forth (by jamesbowman)
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subleq

Posts with mentions or reviews of subleq. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-03.

swapforth

Posts with mentions or reviews of swapforth. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-06-15.
  • Making my own forth implementation
    5 projects | /r/Forth | 15 Jun 2023
  • FPGAs for interpreted programming languages?
    2 projects | /r/FPGA | 25 Nov 2022
  • How many LUT for an 8 bit CPU?
    2 projects | /r/FPGA | 11 Nov 2022
    Thanks! Found the port of this to the board I want :) https://github.com/jamesbowman/swapforth/tree/master/j1a
  • The RISC Deprogrammer
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Oct 2022
    It's a standard thing to do in EE curricula; you normally do it in a one-semester class, and there are literally thousands of open-source synthesizable CPU cores on GitHub now.

    To take two examples to show that designing a CPU is less work than writing a novel:

    - Chuck Thacker's "A Tiny Computer", fairly similar to the Nova, is a page and a half of synthesizable Verilog; it runs at 66 MHz in 200 LUTs of a Virtex-5: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~swm11/examples/bluespec/Tiny3/Thac...

    - James Bowman's J1A is more like Chuck Moore's MuP21 and is about three pages of synthesizable Verilog: https://github.com/jamesbowman/swapforth/blob/master/j1a/ver... and https://github.com/jamesbowman/swapforth/blob/master/j1a/ver.... You can build it with Claire Wolf's iCEStorm (yosys, etc.) and run it on any but Lattice's tiniest FPGAs; it takes up 1162 4-input LUTs.

    I haven't quite done it myself. Last time I played https://nandgame.com/ it took me a couple of hours to play through the hardware design levels. But that's not really "design" in the sense of defining the instruction set (which is also kind of Nova-like), thinking through state machine design, and trying different pipeline depths; you're mostly just doing the kind of logic minimization exercises you'd normally delegate to yosys.

    In https://github.com/kragen/calculusvaporis I designed a CPU instruction set, wrote a simulator for it, wrote and tested some simple programs, designed a CPU at the RTL level, and sketched out gate-level logic designs to get an estimate of how big it would be. But I haven't simulated the RTL to verify it, written it down in an HDL, or breadboarded the circuit, so I'm reluctant to say that this qualifies as "designing a single CPU" either.

  • The J1 Forth CPU
    1 project | /r/Forth | 13 Jan 2021
    Also worth checking is the Swapforth Github repository.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing subleq and swapforth you can also consider the following projects:

Mako - A simple virtual game console

arkam - A Simple Stack VM and Forth

durexforth - Modern C64 Forth

lbForth - Self-hosting metacompiled Forth, bootstrapping from a few lines of C; targets Linux, Windows, ARM, RISC-V, 68000, PDP-11, asm.js.

gforth - Gforth mirror on GitHub (original is on Savannah)

gforth-raylib - Raylib 3.5 bindings for Gforth. The name is backwards for obvious reasons.

elfort - A Forth metacompiler that directly emits an executable binary for x86-64 Linux written in Arkam

calculusvaporis - A tiny CPU

nasmjf - NASM port of JONESFORTH!

discussion - Discussion repository for Forth enthusiasts.