spack VS poetry2nix

> Are we talking about the same autotools?

Yes. Instead of figuring out how to do something particular with every single software package, I can do a --with-foo or --without-bar or --prefix=/opt/baz-1.2.3, and be fairly confident that it will work the way I want.

Certainly with package managers or (FreeBSD) Ports a lot is taken care of behind the scenes, but the above would also help the package/port maintainers as well. Lately I've been using Spack for special-needs compiles, but maintainer ease also helps there, but there are still cases one a 'fully manual' compile is still done.

> Suffice it to say, I prefer to work with handwritten makefiles.

Having everyone 'roll their own' system would probably be worse, because any "mysteriously failure" then has to be debugged specially for each project.

Have you tried Spack?

* https://spack.io

* https://spack.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Well, good luck with that, cause it's broken.

Previous release miscompiled Python [1]

Current release miscompiles bison [2]

[1] https://github.com/spack/spack/issues/38724

[2] https://github.com/spack/spack/issues/37172#issuecomment-181...

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> I can't count the number of times I've seen people say "md5 is fine for use case xyz" where in some counterintuitive way it wasn't fine.

I can count many more times that people told me that md5 was "broken" for file verification when, in fact, it never has been.

My main gripe with the article is that it portrays the entire legal profession as "backwards" and "deeply negligent" when they're not actually doing anything unsafe -- or even likely to be unsafe. And "tech" knows better. Much of tech, it would seem, has no idea about the use cases and why one might be safe or not. They just know something's "broken" -- so, clearly, we should update.

> Just use a safe one, even if you think you "don't need it".

Here's me switching 5,700 or so hashes from md5 to sha256 in 2019: https://github.com/spack/spack/pull/13185

Did I need it? No. Am I "compliant"? Yes.

Really, though, the main tangible benefit was that it saved me having to respond to questions and uninformed criticism from people unnecessarily worried about md5 checksums.

[1] https://github.com/spack/spack/blob/develop/var/spack/repos/...

In Spack [1] we can express all these constraints for the dependency solver, and we also try to always re-cythonize sources. The latter is because bundled cythonized files are sometimes forward incompatible with Python, so it's better to just regenerate those with an up to date cython.

[1] https://github.com/spack/spack/

You want to look at the tools used for HPC systems, these are generally very well tried and tested and can be setup for single machine usage. Remote access - we use ssh, but web interfaces such as Open On Demand exist - https://openondemand.org/. For managing Jobs, Slurm is currently the most popular option - https://slurm.schedmd.com/documentation.html. For a module system (to load software and libraries per user), Spack is a great - https://spack.io/. You might also want to consider containerisation options, https://apptainer.org/ is a good option.

git clone https://github.com/spack/spack.git ./spack/bin/spack install gcc

How about converting it to Nix derivation?

https://github.com/nix-community/poetry2nix

This looks really strange because I do not know how to solve it and also because it looks like the sha256 that I am setting is not the one that Nix will match. I read also https://github.com/nix-community/poetry2nix/issues/413 but I was not able to solve the problem.

There's a project that does this with using Nix: https://github.com/takeda/nix-cde (this is a wrapper around https://github.com/nix-community/poetry2nix)

{ description = "Application packaged using poetry2nix"; inputs.flake-utils.url = "github:numtide/flake-utils"; inputs.nixpkgs.url = "github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos-unstable"; inputs.poetry2nix = { url = "github:nix-community/poetry2nix"; inputs.nixpkgs.follows = "nixpkgs"; }; outputs = { self, nixpkgs, flake-utils, poetry2nix }: flake-utils.lib.eachDefaultSystem (system: let # see https://github.com/nix-community/poetry2nix/tree/master#api for more functions and examples. inherit (poetry2nix.legacyPackages.${system}) mkPoetryEnv; pkgs = import nixpkgs {inherit system;}; python = pkgs.python310; pythonEnv = mkPoetryEnv { inherit python; projectDir = ./.; preferWheels = true; }; in { #packages.default = mkPoetryEnv { # projectDir = ./.; # python = pkgs.python310; #}; devShells.default = pkgs.mkShell { buildInputs = [pythonEnv]; packages = [ poetry2nix.packages.${system}.poetry pkgs.cairo pkgs.pkg-config pkgs.gobject-introspection pkgs.tk ]; }; }); }

A cleaner way might be to use https://github.com/nix-community/poetry2nix which can load poetry.lock inside Nix. I still need to try it for torch, but it does seem like a clean way to use it.

The README for poetry2nix (https://github.com/nix-community/poetry2nix) seems to indicate that all extras should be enabled by default.

if it's for a project you're working on, i'd recommend just using poetry2nix

poetry2nix is another popular option.