skaffold VS telepresence

Skaffold + Docker Dekstop Kubernetes works really well for me. My company's main codebase has ~7 services, service discovery works by DNS (k8s services), everything is super composable. Obviously, since we're a kubernetes focused company so I'm biased, but Skaffold is fantastic.

Skaffold is an open source project started by a Google engineer after suffering the pain of cloud native Kubernetes deployments. It’s effectively a command-line tool that automates the build, push, and deploy steps for Kubernetes applications.

Skaffold

This article only scraches the surface of what skaffold is capable of! You can find tons examples in the official github repository

Author here. Tilt is great.

After minikube I wrote skaffold, which is a closer alternative to docker compose for Kubernetes with file watching and automated rebuilds and syncs.

https://skaffold.dev

I built something like this in Go a few years ago but it reloads your infrastructure when it changes, recompiles your code when it needs to, and syncs static files or interpreted files to wherever your app is running (desktop or cloud). Think of it like docker-compose but with file watching + sync + smart rebuilds. https://skaffold.dev/

DevSpace sounds pretty interesting and seems to address the issue of migrations pretty clearly, whether with hooks or just doing something like devspace enter python manage.py migrate in the Python example. It seems like doing Django migrations with Skaffold involves setting up a Pod or Job solely for this purpose. It doesn't sound like there is functionality, or plans to add it, to Skaffold for running custom commands in the Pod: https://github.com/GoogleContainerTools/skaffold/issues/4179.

Follow-up; Doing a comparison with Webpack and investigating devspace and telepresence for hot reloading experience between our local K8.

Telepresence: It's great for connecting their local development machine seamlessly to a remote cluster via a two-way proxying mechanism. Telepresence enables developers to code locally and runs the majority of their services within a remote Kubernetes cluster.

Right now I do a lot of web development (Node.js, Vue) so I set up proxies to view my WebPack dev server on the same website as my VS code under a subdomain (3000.devserver.com) . I heavily utilize containers to locally run our database, application, and some microservices when locally testing. However I recently set up telepresence to intercept our staging k8s cluster and run my development builds straight on our real infra which is amazing and reduces my reliance on IO/proxies to test my work.

some alternative tool, that enables similar workflow, but via other means:

https://www.telepresence.io/

I guess what you're looking for is something like this https://www.telepresence.io/

I use tele presence. https://www.telepresence.io/

And yes, currently it just adds friction since developers face high entry barriers with K8s. Btw. with tools like https://www.telepresence.io/ you don't have to build the image over and over again.

I was just wondering if there was a better way for local development on weaker machines. I was thinking along the lines of a separate cheap box that hosts my cluster connected to my development laptop through ethernet. Can I use a raspberry pi stack, or an old used system for the cheap to achieve this? Or is there anything I can do to have a remote cluster behave as if it is local (does telepresence achieve this, or does Cloud-Code). My company can provide remote clusters for development, but I'm not sure how well I can do local development with it (skaffold).

https://www.telepresence.io/

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Hi HN!

I'm one of the engineers working on Telepresence. I've been working on it on-and-off for about 2.5 years (but with about a continuous year of "off" in the middle there). To me, Telepresence is about making Kubernetes development accessible/palatable to "traditional" developers who are skeptical/hostile to this whole "cloud native" thing (developers who are like me).

A big part of 2.1.0 is open-sourcing another big bucket of code with the CNCF, so I'd be remiss if I didn't give HN an express link to the code: https://github.com/telepresenceio/telepresence/tree/release/...

I'm here if you have any questions!