simple-peer VS jam

Compare simple-peer vs jam and see what are their differences.

simple-peer

📡 Simple WebRTC video, voice, and data channels (by feross)

jam

By gitlab-jam-systems
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simple-peer

Posts with mentions or reviews of simple-peer. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2021-04-30.
  • Building a customer support solution focused on video calls
    Custom peer-to-peer video call implementation can also be done using vanilla webrtc or https://github.com/feross/simple-peer but using an SFU such as Janus can help
  • Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse
    news.ycombinator.com | 2021-02-14
    Not an expert here but have some experience with it:

    Assuming that each peer is connected to every other peer via a mesh network [see this image for reference: https://github.com/feross/simple-peer/blob/master/img/full-m...], each outgoing stream (esp. audio / video) is likely going to be duplicated, per recipient.

    Scalability over a mesh network is fully dependent on CPU and network performance of all of the connected devices, and I'd doubt it could handle 12 participants if there is video involved, unless all participants are running relatively high-end and modern devices, with optimal network conditions.

    You'll need a SFU or an MFU running on the server to handle larger rooms, while enabling all connected devices to only have to send one output stream per media type, regardless of how many connected participants there are.

  • Any example of streaming non "user media" media?
    reddit.com/r/WebRTC | 2021-02-11
    It isn't really documented anywhere, but here is a thread confirming the behavior
  • A local file storage for the web and interopearability layer for web-based apps (submission)
    dev.to | 2021-01-10
    For the tmp-webrtc extension, at first I wanted to create a backend service to implement peer discovery. That would also give me an opportunity to try out DigitalOcean’s paid services (like running backend apps and using a managed database). Unfortunately due to time constraints I didn’t get around to doing that and used the P2PT library for peer discovery instead. P2PT uses public WebTorrent trackers as a WebRTC signaling server, and so no backend services have to be deployed. So it ended up being another static app. This is my first time using P2PT and WebRTC for file transfers though, so I still think I learned a lot.
  • tmp.spacet.me devlog part 4
    dev.to | 2021-01-08
    Sending and receiving files via WebRTC. I used P2PT for peer discovery and simple-peer-files for file transfer. They are based on the simple-peer library. I’ve never used them, and a hackathon is a great time to try out things I’ve never tried before.
  • Is there a Video chat script with WebRTC that I can add to a web page
    reddit.com/r/WebRTC | 2021-01-07
    simple-peer.git
  • Simple-peer – Simple WebRTC video, voice, and data channels
    news.ycombinator.com | 2021-01-06

jam

Posts with mentions or reviews of jam. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2021-04-07.
  • Open source alternative to Clubhouse: Jam
    news.ycombinator.com | 2021-07-02
  • Is it bad practice to blend docker-compose files together?
    reddit.com/r/docker | 2021-04-07
    most Docker-compose.yml files I come across, e.g. https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam/-/blob/master/deployment/docker-compose.yml or https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/blob/develop/support/docker/production/docker-compose.yml propose the complete setup while some propose those and a slimmer version without a web servers or reverse proxy https://github.com/nextcloud/docker#base-version---fpm
  • The Clubhouse clones are coming
    news.ycombinator.com | 2021-04-01
    I think the drop-in audio room is here to stay. It is a format.

    hn is a text room. Similar to how Twitter is a text room. Similar yet different.

    https://twitter.com/__tosh/status/1377587398973005827?s=20

    I'm working on Jam which is an open source implementation of the drop-in audio room format, in many ways similar to Clubhouse or Twitter Spaces but also different (and more versatile).

    Show HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26131123

    https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam

    I found Benedict Evens' take on Slack adding audio rooms and what it means for Clubhouse:

    https://twitter.com/benedictevans/status/1377363658167050241...

    Some things are so fundamental that it is difficult to say whether they were "invented" or "original". In some cases _discovered_ seems more fitting.

    http://www.paulgraham.com/rootsoflisp.html

  • If you can join the Monero Clubhouse call this Sat 12pm EST
    reddit.com/r/Monero | 2021-03-18
    Why would you want yo use Clubhouse? You could use free, Open Source and privacy-respecting alterntives such as Jam (the closest to Clubhouse, can be self-hosted), Jitsi or Mumble...
  • Open source projects should run office hours
    news.ycombinator.com | 2021-03-04
    For Jam (open source Clubhouse) we do a weekly “Jam Jam” which basically is an audio space that people can join (no video, no calendar slot negotiation, connecting with others who use the project).

    We link to it in our readme

    https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam

    (can be improved)

    I wonder if there is a better name for the concept that works for international audiences and people who don’t know the concept from academia.

    For larger projects I can also imagine other formats like “show and tell” or “Q & A” where people submit questions (maybe even with donations or paid to create an income stream for the people working on the project)

  • Self-made Clubhouse app for Android
    news.ycombinator.com | 2021-02-20
    Nice to see alternative clients already. Might also be cool to combine with Jam.

    https://jam.systems/

    https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam

  • JAM: self-hosted and open source alternative to clubhouse
  • Open source for Clubhouse
    dev.to | 2021-02-14
    [Code] https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam
  • Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse
    news.ycombinator.com | 2021-02-14
    btw one thing we could not solve so far:

    it seems like on iOS Safari there is _no way_ to tell whether sound output happens via the loudspeaker or the earspeaker (super annoying when you have the phone at your ear and the audio stream re-connects and then it switches randomly to the loudspeaker which is really loud), there might be a way to work around this without introducing a native app but so far we did not find one:

    https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam/-/issues/19

    news.ycombinator.com | 2021-02-14
    Hi everyone,

    a few days ago @DoubleMalt, @mitschabaude and me did a one-day hackathon to see if we can get a minimal WebRTC based version of a Clubhouse-style "room" to work.

    Since then we added a TURN server, bug fixes ("can you hear me?") and a bit of ui polishing.

    Jam should run in any modern browser but the long-tail of browsers and operating systems is … long, so please let us know if it does not work for you, and what you are using. We want Jam to run if it can run. If your toaster supports WebRTC it might run Jam as well.

    We tried to keep the implementation fairly minimal, I'm sure there is more we can remove and simplify once we spend more time on it.

    https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam

    Please give it a try and let us know what you think. Any thoughts, comments, feature requests, hosting-deploy-target requests etc etc highly appreciated.

    (for those who are not familiar with Clubhouse yet:)

    A room in Clubhouse (or on Twitter Spaces) is a bit like Zoom without video, without screen sharing and without text messaging.

    You see a grid of all the people in the room, who is speaking, who would like to say something (slow mute/unmute flashing), who is clapping (fast mute/unmute flashing) and that's it.

    Over the past few years I experienced what we all now call "Zoom fatigue". I just don't enjoy video calls. When the pandemic started it felt like even people who in the past were happy with phone calls also wanted to jump on Zoom calls. I'm glad that eventually slowed down again.

    I'm super excited about Clubhouse, Twitter Spaces and the activity around audio spaces and live calls.

    In hindsight it is fascinating how the ui for group phone calls on smartphones has not advanced much compared to the non-smart phones.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing simple-peer and jam you can also consider the following projects:

webrtc-video-conference - WebRTC video conference app

clubhouse-py - Clubhouse API written in Python. Standalone client included. For reference and education purposes only.

janus-gateway - Janus WebRTC Server

Houseclub - A barebones unofficial Android app for Clubhouse

WebRTC-Scalable-Broadcast - This module simply initializes socket.io and configures it in a way that single broadcast can be relayed over unlimited users without any bandwidth/CPU usage issues. Everything happens peer-to-peer!