scala-steward VS renovate

To not confuse anyone reading this, these are actually pretty radically different. Keep in mind that Renovate is literally just doing regex on your build files. While this is great for simple things and sending in some updates, I know first hand this is far inferior to the update support you'll get by using something like Scala Steward.

https://github.com/scala-steward-org/scala-steward Might be the one you are looking for

This is one of the reasons why statically typed languages have a big advantage when it comes to maintenance.

Take Scala for example. There is now mature tooling for keeping your dependencies / libraries up-to-date automatically, using automatic migration-scripts (must be provided by the library author of course).

See here: https://github.com/scala-steward-org/scala-steward/blob/mast...

The difficult part here is of course to write the migrations. This works very well in Scala (and can work as well in certain other languages) because the type-system provides enough information to do automatic rewrites and it is easy to _not_ use unsound techniques such as reflection, code generation, macros etc.

The reason why we don't see such tooling in other languages yet is that they are either dynamically typed, which makes it almost impossible to write migration scripts that pretty much always work. Or they are statically typed, but the typesystem is so limited, that developers have to fall back on mentioned unsound features.

> Yes, it is awesome until you have to sysadmin it, apply updates, patch it, fix security holes, etc. I am not saying all self-hosted solutions are like that. There are exceptions. However, the majority of open-source self-hosted solutions require a lot of extra work.

I'm currently self-hosting 10 different applications on my local server, which represents everything I've ever seen that looked fun or useful to me. Every one of them had a Docker image with an example compose file, which means updating them just requires periodically running Renovate [0] on the repo that stores all my compose files and then running a script that docker compose pulls the updates. It takes maybe 10 minutes every other week, and is actually kinda fun.

It helps that all the apps are only accessible from within my VPN, so I'm not too worried about fixing security updates within a tiny time window.

[0] https://github.com/renovatebot/renovate

This is a big deal! Where did you read this? I found:

https://github.com/renovatebot/renovate/discussions/26917

Renovate is an automated dependency management tool that can be used to keep your dependencies up-to-date. It can be configured to automatically create pull requests to update your dependencies, and it supports a wide range of package managers and platforms.

To get started with Mend Renovate, the comprehensive official documentation provides detailed instructions on installation, configuration, and best practices. Additionally, the Mend Renovate community forum offers a platform for users to connect, share experiences, and access the collective knowledge base.

It is a good practice to keep software up to date. To track changes in upstream software, we can utilize automatic dependency tracking systems such as Dependabot or Renovate. This is a broad topic and requires a separate article to be covered. If you would like to read about it, please vote in the comments section below.

So do other forges: I have Renovate [0] set up on my self-hosted Forgejo and it's worked great so far.

[0] https://github.com/renovatebot/renovate

You can ease some of the burden for yourself though using tooling. If you are using GitHub, dependabot can be configured to make automatic PRs to your repo whenever there are dependencies to update. If you're not a GitHub user, you can use renovate which even supports self hosting.

Hello! I'm using Helm in K8s and curious if there is a solution that could keep tabs on the deployed chart dependency versions and either alert us when something is out of date or when a new release is available. Does this exist? I was thinking something like Dependabot or Renovate, but neither seems to be able to manage this.