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35 | 30 | |
4,130 | 5,722 | |
2.3% | 1.9% | |
8.6 | 9.8 | |
2 days ago | 5 days ago | |
Rust | Elixir | |
Apache License 2.0 | MIT License |
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Rustler
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AI Toolkit: Give a brain to your game's NPCs, a header-only C++ library
For performance intensive tasks, you could rely on Rust NIFs, there is this great project: https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler
My last project with Elixir was using Elixir merely as an orchestrator of static binaries (developed in golang) which were talking in JSON via stdin/stdout.
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Building Apps with Tauri and Elixir
From the moment we discovered Tauri, we really felt like this was the perfect fit. The API is really solid, the configuration files are minimal and easy to understand, and the usage of Rust makes it way easier to add new functionalities and think about interesting ways of interoperating with Elixir via the Rustler library.
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Async Rust Is A Bad Language
Elixir/Rust is the new Python/C++, and Rustler makes the communicating between the 2 languages super easy: https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler
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Why elixir over Golang
Rustler is so awesome for this. Write Elixir NIFs in Rust? Yes, please!
- Is RUST a good choice for building web browsers?
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Why do you enjoy systems programming languages?
But really, I would suggest thinking about what you want to build before "how" or "with which tool" - one of the signs of a person becoming a good engineer is having an array of tools at their disposal and being able to choose a correct tool for the correct task. Rust also excels in integrating with other languages - with JS via WebAssembly (a bit of self-promotion, for example), with Elixir via Rustler, with Python via PyO3 and PyOxidizer, etc. So you absolutely can start writing a frontend app with JS, or a distributed system with Elixir, or a data processing/ML app with Python and use Rust to speed up critical parts of those. Or, in reverse, you can start with Rust & add new capabilities to whatever you're building, that being a frontend, a resilient chat interface, or an ML model.
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PasswordRs 0.1.0 released (Rust NIF for password hashing)
I created a elixir (wrapper) library to generate password hashes. Other Elixir libraries use a C NIF to generate password hashes. This libary uses a Rust NIF (using Rustler) and the Rust libraries the generate the different hashes. Additionally this library uses RustlerPrecompiled so you don't need to have a Rust compiler installed to use this library. It supports argon2, scrypt, brypt and pbkdf2.
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Elixir and Rust is a good mix
> I guess, why not use Rust entirely instead of as a FFI into Elixir or other backend language?
Because Rust brings none of the benefits of the BEAM ecosystem to the table.
I was an early Elixir adopter, not working currently as an Elixir developer, but I have deployed one of the largest Elixir applications for a private company in my country.
I know it has limits, but the language itself is only a small part of the whole.
Take ML, Jose Valim and Sean Moriarity have studied the problem, made a plan to tackle it and started solving it piece by piece [1] in a tightly integrated manner, it feels natural, as if Elixir always had those capabilities in a way that no other language does and to put the icing on the cake the community released Livebook [2] to interactively explore code and use the new tools in the simplest way possible, something that Python notebooks only dream of being capable of, after a decade of progress
That's not to say that Elixir is superior as a language, but that the ecosystem is flourishing and the community is able to extract the 100% of the benefits from the tools and create new marvellously crafted ones, that push the limits forward every time, in such a simple manner, that it looks like magic.
And going back to Rust, you can write Rust if you need speed or for whatever reason you feel it's the right tool for the job, it's totally integrated [3][4], again in a way that many other languages can only dream of, and it's in fact the reason I've learned Rust in the first place.
The opposite is not true, if you write Rust, you write Rust, and that's it. You can't take advantage of the many features the BEAM offers, OTP, hot code reloading, full inspection of running systems, distribution, scalability, fault tolerance, soft real time etc. etc. etc.
But of course if you don't see any advantage in them, it means you probably don't need them (one other option is that you still don't know you want them :] ). In that case Rust is as good as any other language, but for a backend, even though I gently despise it, Java (or Kotlin) might be a better option.
[1] https://github.com/elixir-nx/nx https://github.com/elixir-nx/axon
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It's legos all the way down
unfortunately as of the time of this writing, rustler does not support generic type intefaces so I guess this is impossible?
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When Rust Hurts
One thing that drew me to Rust was actually Elixir/Erlang calling out to it for certain specialized needs. Within Elixir/Erlang you get best of breed concurrency but exiting the BEAM to run other code is unsafe. Calling out to Rust, however, comes with great safety guarantees.
Managing concurrency outside of Rust and then calling Rust for the more focused and specialized work is a good combination IMO.
phoenix_live_view
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Coming to grips with JS: a Rubyist's deep dive
Then there are stack-specific libraries: StimulusReflex for Rails, Phoenix LiveView, Laravel Livewire, Unicorn and Tetra for Django, Blazor for .NET, … and the list goes on.
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Undead - LiveViews for the JVM
I came across this pretty interesting library on Hacker News that tries to implement LiveView on the JVM. Link to GitHub.
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Show HN: Podsee – AI tool for podcast listeners
Hi everyone, I just launched Podsee(https://pods.ee) for podcast listeners, lovers. You can search and listen to podcasts at Podsee. What makes it different is that you can get the AI transcript for an episode.
It started as a side project after I resigned my job one year ago. As a programmer, I love Elixir (http://elixir-lang.org/) and Phoenix LiveView(https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view), and want to make a product with it. So I build Podsee.
I'm planning to add more AI features to it, like summarize the episode audio, episode to comics, etc.
I'd love to invite you all to try out the product and would appreciate hearing your feedback! Thanks!
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Ask HN: What companies are embracing “HTML over the wire”?
"HTML over the wire" generally refers to tech like [0] Liveview, [1] Hotwire, [2] LiveView, [3] Blazor, etc. They aren't about about ditching JS and more about not writing your HTML in JS (and yes, SSR).
- Alpine.js
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Phoenix 1.7 is View-less
Some of the 1.7 stuff has an alert banner that pops up when the connection is broken. I think that could really help.
However I haven't put that in our app as I have seen other issues of flakey connection reconnect issues, and I would hate to make any of those more visible with a flashing notice.
- https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/issues...
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What did I miss?
HEEx template language was created, an extension to EEx
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How to get started with LiveView?
Also to your point, the latest LiveView release moved some helper utilities around and you need to add "import Phoenix.Component" in places. I could be wrong but I think the latest live code gen still isn't setting up correct imports. More info here: https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
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Ask HN: What's is your go to toolset for simple front end development?
If you need any kind of interactivity on the frontend, but are more comfortable with the backend, I would suggest looking at Phoenix LiveView [0] or a similar server-rendered HTML technology for your language of your choice [1].
In short, these solutions take JavaScript out of the mix entirely and basically let you deal with a single logical "app", rather than a separate frontend & backend.
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Should I stop trying to learn HTML/JavaScript?
It uses JS though, as it is required to open a WS connection and change content without refreshing the page, but that looks like it is abstracted from the user. https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/tree/master/priv/static
What are some alternatives?
Svelte - Cybernetically enhanced web apps
htmx - </> htmx - high power tools for HTML
hotwire-rails - Use Hotwire in your Ruby on Rails app
gleam - ⭐️ A friendly language for building type-safe, scalable systems!
Blitz - ⚡️ The Missing Fullstack Toolkit for Next.js
hsnif - Tool that allows to write Erlang NIF libraries in Haskell
carbon-lang - Carbon Language's main repository: documents, design, implementation, and related tools. (NOTE: Carbon Language is experimental; see README)
nifty - helpful tools for when I need to create an Elixir NIF .
Akka - Build highly concurrent, distributed, and resilient message-driven applications on the JVM
elixir-nodejs - An Elixir API for calling Node.js functions
dplyr - dplyr: A grammar of data manipulation
livewire - A full-stack framework for Laravel that takes the pain out of building dynamic UIs.