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Non-code contributions are the secret to open source success
It's just as true today, though. When the Rust mod team resigned en masse in 2021, it was announced by a programmer (the author of ripgrep) [0], and the conflict was with the core team (also programmers). A supermajority of their contributors to open source projects are programmers, so most famous meltdowns are going to be conflicts between programmers, not between programmers and the tiny minority of non-technical contributors.
I'm still waiting for anyone to give an example of an open source project meltdown that was triggered by non-technical contributors.
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Graydon Hoare: Batten Down Fix Later
the mods publicly outlined the governance issue, while keeping the moderation issue private (https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671)
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On the RustConf keynote | Rust Blog
Here's another list: https://github.com/rust-lang/team//blob/d4c071b86c33683845919cf27eabf33e15fb6784/teams/interim-leadership-chat.toml
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On the RustConf Keynote
they linked their (user)names:
https://github.com/rust-lang/team/blob/2cea9916903fffafbfae6...
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Let's thank who have helped us in the Rust Community together!
You can also check rust-lang/team repo, where shows more than 400+ people have worked on the Rust Project as official members. And on thanks.rust-lang.org, it shows that 300+ people have been involved in each recent release. I believe the number of active contributors may be more than 100+.
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JT: Why I left Rust
Right, but this type of drama isn't new in the community. A while back the whole mod team resigned because they were not able to hold the core team accountable. In fact I remember it being said that the Core Team placing themselves unaccountable to anyone but themselves. So I don't think I'm being dramatic at all here.
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Can someone explain to me what's happening with the Rust foundation?
If that's too onerous, you can also look at the list of directors and observe that there are people titled "Project Director" who you can look up on https://github.com/rust-lang/team and observe that they have in fact been selected from the project teams.
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Safety and Soundness in Rust
You're more than welcome to set the narrative straight. The infighting among Rust maintainers is based partially on your resignation note where you said the Core Team was "unaccountable" https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671 and implied that they were untrustworthy. The same people that once went around starting language wars, like calling Zig a "massive step backward" for the industry https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32783244.
I'm just an outsider observer, who's been watching the sparks fly. It's been interesting as well to watch how quickly memories changes when positions are dangled. If there's ever an investigative report on the tribulations of Rust, they can also dig into the allegations of nepotism around one maintainer and his girlfriend on the project, vis-a-vis Amazon. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28633113.
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Rust Project Reveals New ‘Constitution’
The publicly posted a scathing account of the core team link is broken, because it includes a . in the end.
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How a Zig IDE Could Work
Apologies, I accidentally confused matklad with jonas-schievink, a different r-a contributor that recently became a rust project alumni [1]. It seems matklad is still active on r-a.
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Zig, Rust, and Other Languages
https://github.com/ziglang/zig/blob/5cd7fef17faa2a40c8da23f0...
Generally speaking, it’s as mentioned just a convention. A zig library might not allow its users to pass allocators for example.
In C++, stl containers can take an allocator as a template parameter. Recent C++ versions also provide several polymorphic allocators in the stdlib. You can also override the global allocator or a specific class’ allocator (override placement new).
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Nanos – A Unikernel
We need to remove that. We did have a channel on freenode a while back but got rid of it.
Outside of gh discussions there is also https://forums.nanovms.com/. We made a decision a while ago to follow Zig's lead here and have no 'official' community space (https://github.com/ziglang/zig?tab=readme-ov-file#community) instead letting people form their own spaces.
Zig also has an IRC channel on libera (#zig) that is moderated by Andrew Kelley.[1]
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MicroZig: Unified abstraction layer and HAL for Zig on several microcontrollers
ESP32 and STM32 support is very welcome!
I have been following https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/5467 for a while and progress seemed to have slowed significantly
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Asynchronous Clean-Up (in Rust)
I have never used it directly, take what I say with a grain of salt.
As far as I know at least part of the idea was to eliminate the function coloring problem by letting the compiler do some nifty compile-time deductions. This had some issues (I don't know if this is still planned, it seems like the kind of thing that should not work in practice). Additionally, there were all sorts of hard technical issues with LLVM, debugging, etc.
I recommend checking the issue tracker, eg. https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/6025
I personally don't understand the domain well enough at all, but honestly, I feel like (if possible) Zig should try to double down on its allocator approach.
Instead of trying to use some compile-time deduction magic explicitly pass around an "async runtime/executor" struct which you explicitly have to interact with. Why not?
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Show HN: Tokamak – A Dependency Injection-Centric Server-Side Framework for Zig
Atop your readme, you point out that nginx or another reverse proxy should be used. Kudos for that.
As for performance, I'd be curious what gains you get using `std.http.Server` with keepalive and a threadpool. Possibly you can re-use your ThreadContext - having 1 per thread in the threadpool that you can re-using. `std.Thread.Pool` is also very poorly tuned for a large number of small batch jobs, but that's a place to start.
[1] https://github.com/ziglang/zig/blob/b3aed4e2c8b4d48b8b12f606...
Yes, fundamentally. In Rust if you take a parameter of generic type T without any bounds, you cannot call anything on it except for things which are defined for all types. If you specify bounds, only things required by the bounds can be called (+ the ones for all types). Another difference is where you get an error when you try pass something which doesn't adhere to a certain trait. In Rust you will get an error at the call site, not at the place of use (except if you don't specify any bounds).
Zig is doing just fine without any trait mechanism and it simplifies the language a lot but it does come up from time to time. The usual solution is to just get type information via @typeInfo and error out if the type is something you're not expecting [0]. Not everybody is happy about it though [1] because, among other things, it makes it more difficult to discover what the required type actually is.
[0] https://github.com/ziglang/zig/blob/b3aed4e2c8b4d48b8b12f606...
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