roswell VS janet-sh

BTW, Roswell makes it easier to run scripts: https://github.com/roswell/roswell/wiki/Roswell-as-a-Scripti...

It is also a tool to install various CL implementations, and to install software.

It doesn't come with a choice of built-in libraries.

The Github wiki: https://github.com/roswell/roswell/wiki

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You could also be a roswell user, in which case your project might have a roswell directory. Again, you can look at the qlot project for reference.

Clack is a web application environment for Common Lisp inspired by Python's WSGI and Ruby's Rack. Clack provides a script to start a web server. It's useful when you deploy to production environment. You need to install Roswell before as Clack depends on it.

Common Lisp itself has Roswell, which I am disappointed to see is not even mentioned in the article.

https://github.com/roswell/roswell

w.r.t to image size, ScriptL takes care of that since everything is in the same image. You could also use something like buildapp or cl-launch to make a multi-call binary that you compile your scripts into. I think I recall roswell allowing multiple entry points too, but I never could get it to work. Possibly PEBKAC on my end.

Right now, the one that is most attractive is Janet, with its wonderful shell programming integration and built-in http request. Those are both things I'm working a lot with.

I use Janet most often as a glue for shell utilities using the sh package (https://github.com/andrewchambers/janet-sh). It's a great tool for building small containerized jobs. I think it has a ton of potential as the ecosystem grows and matures.

Some rough spots:

- No canonical http client. There are a few attempts at wrapping libcurl but nothing complete and well documented yet. However, the creator of Joy framework for Janet does have an http client library.

- The main http server circlet is MIT licensed, but it is built on top of Mongoose, which is GPL/paid commercial. Something to be aware of if you want to distribute binaries made with this library.

- I have never been successful getting any of the UI or drawing libraries to work.

- Naming of packages is a bit confusing even if you have watched the Good Place and are aware of all of the inside jokes.

The arguments I have seen are based on Janet using arrays/tuples rather than cons cells. Here is the author addressing this on reddit a while back. https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/aqwedz/janet_i...

The debate continues in the thread. Either way, I think Janet is very useful for situations where you want something lisp like and also want/need small executables. I've experimented with it quite a bit and have found it really useful for putting together cli apps. The sh package is really useful for gluing together other shell programs. https://github.com/andrewchambers/janet-sh