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ron
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XML is better than YAML
Whenever this kind of arguments come up, I am sad that RON (https://github.com/ron-rs/ron) is not better known. To me it feels like a cleaner and better JSON.
In any case, my little experience with it had made me hate YAML. Generally speaking, I have come to dislike any language with significant whitespace other than Haskell.
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What config format do you prefer?
Part of the reason why I migrated away from RON in system76-scheduler is because I needed to rely on the 253-untagged-enums branch from https://github.com/MomoLangenstein/ron. Which still isn't resolved today: https://github.com/ron-rs/ron/pull/451.
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Ron: Rusty Object Notation
Serde is strongly, strictly typed: you have to specify what type you want to decode to. It’s nothing like Python’s Pickle protocol.
See, for example, https://github.com/ron-rs/ron/blob/484fcab0686dfd18c7e29b6c1..., where it (in a type-inferency way) says “parse as Config”.
- JSON vs. XML with Douglas Crockford
- Ron – Rusty Object Notation
- They're rebuilding the Death Star of complexity
strictyaml
- StrictYAML
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XML is better than YAML
NestedText already is the way I use YAML; everything is intepreted as a string. I have some trust in my YAML parser to not mangle most strings. I could use NestedText, but users would be unfamiliar with it, and IIRC the only parsers are in Python. But then I could use StrictYaml too https://github.com/crdoconnor/strictyaml
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The new type of SQL injection
you can stick to a subset of YAML syntax (e.g. strictYAML)
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DO YOU YAML?
YAML stands for "YAML Ain’t Markup Language" - this is known as a recursive acronym. YAML is often used for writing configuration files. It’s human readable, easy to understand and can be used with other programming languages. Although YAML is commonly used in many disciplines, it has received criticism on the amoutn of whitespace .yml files have, difficulty in editing, and complexity of the standard. Despite the criticism, properly using YAML ensures that you can reproduce the results of a project and makes sure that the virtual environment packages play nicely with system packages. (If you're looking for another way to share environments there are other alternatives to YAML which include StrictYAML (a type-safe YAML parser) and NestedText)
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The yaml document from hell
The example you linked provides this as an example of a YAML document that he wants his format to support.
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The YAML Document from Hell
That safe subset exists and is implemented in a number of languages. It is called strict-yaml: https://hitchdev.com/strictyaml/
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Hacker News top posts: Jul 3, 2022
StrictYAML\ (33 comments)
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Why JSON Isn’t a Good Configuration Language (2018)
To me those are in the category of "nice to have", and the problem is that every developer has different preferences for these [1] [2]. But the main features of StrictYaml, like supporting comments and less syntactic noise, I think are pretty uncontroversial, and perhaps it's worth it to get people to switch over for those alone. It doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to be a significant enough improvement over JSON, and I'd say those two features are more than enough
What are some alternatives?
toml.io - Source Code for toml.io
pyyaml - Canonical source repository for PyYAML
json5 - JSON5 — JSON for Humans
nestedtext - Human readable and writable data interchange format
kdl - the kdl document language specifications
ytt - YAML templating tool that works on YAML structure instead of text
minimal-yaml - A minimalist, zero-copy parser for a strict subset of the Yaml specification.
crudini - A utility for manipulating ini files
yaml-reference-parser
yaml-rust - A pure rust YAML implementation.
typescript-json-schema - Generate json-schema from your Typescript sources
starlark-go - Starlark in Go: the Starlark configuration language, implemented in Go