ricochet VS Mumble

This looks like a much more polished alternative to Ricochet: https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet

Ricochet seems dead. It's been five years since its last commit to their git repo, and their website's certificate expired last year. This is probably why you can't find much information.

I think something like Ricochet (if it were still actively maintained) could be a good solution.

https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet

Every user is their own Tor onion service, so you get E2E encryption and no centralized servers. The whole thing hinges on the security of Tor itself which is probably a safe enough bet.

With that being said, if I had just one piece of advice - try to avoid ostentatious phrases like Speek is by far the most secure way to converse or 100% anonymous. Tor itself is not 100% anonymous, so that should immediately make anyone cautious. One of the things that I admired about the original Ricochet was that the developers never made brazen claims about their software. In fact, quite the opposite.

Check out https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet/blob/master/doc/prot.... It is metadata-free. It does not require a centralized server. It uses Tor.

Abandoned, unmaintained, deprecated or unreleased: Ricochet, TOR Messenger, Cwtch

briar. ricochet. Tox with Tor as a proxy. any other trustworthy messenger with Tor as a proxy.

ricochet.im website not working (??)

> there isn't a currently easily available obvious way to have private secure conversations.

Ricochet[1] works really well. It uses Tor hidden services to communicate. Your Ricochet ID is your onion address. To add a contact, you input their Ricochet ID and a short message, and Ricochet connects to their onion address and sends a contact request. If the contact request is accepted then you'll each show up as a contact on each other's client and can chat whenever you want.

Tor is really perfect for this, you can't get more private or censorship-resistant than Tor.

The UI is currently not great, but that's not a protocol problem.

The biggest problem with Ricochet is that hardly anyone is using it.

[1] https://ricochet.im/

Mumble's latency is unbeatable imo, it's basically their main focus and shows.

The sticking point for me is the lack of persistent messages, something the devs strangely think is a privacy plus. Issue open since 2016: https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/issues/2560

If you drop out for a minute you won't have access to anything that was posted in chat, which makes it useless for anything other than voice only comms, that might suit some business purposes but I've always needed to post links or screenshots in chat during meetings.

There's any number of alternative chat applications available, like Element, Mumble, Teamspeak etc.

Mumble?

I think Mumble might fit what you're looking for. It's been a very long time since I've used it, but it seems to still exist: https://www.mumble.info/ - I've used previously for exactly what you're describing, events with lots of crew dispersed around and no budget for radios. I had it installed on an AP running OpenWRT so it was just a case of plugging that in and getting people to install the app and connect to it.

According to Github releases page and the downloads page, the latest mumble-server release is 1.4.27 at the time of typing. Ubuntu Packages and the Mumble PPA only have version 1.3.4.

tbh, as a user, if the priority speaker state stays over user reconnects I would also expect it to stay over server restarts. Feel free to check for or open a ticket for that.

For the other layers one can front-end IRC with TheLounge [1][2] or Convos [3][4]. TheLounge only persists history in private mode meaning that users are created in that front-end and chat messages are in Redis. For small networks or groups of friends this is probably fine.

Notably missing is voice chat. I use the Mumble client [5] with the Murmur or uMurmur [6] server which is light-weight enough to run on ones home router. I use it on Alpine Linux, works great. It's not a shiny and attention grabbing as Discord but probably fine for everyone else. For people to create their own voice channels would require the full-blown Murmur server.

[1] - https://github.com/thelounge

[2] - https://thelounge.chat/

[3] - https://github.com/convos-chat/convos/

[4] - https://convos.chat/

[5] - https://www.mumble.info/

[6] - https://github.com/umurmur/umurmur/wiki/Configuration