react-snippets VS todomvc

I updated the repo for this (and credited you in the code). If you have time, please feel free to review & improve as looks like quite a few people are using the code now: https://github.com/ashok-khanna/react-snippets/blob/main/Rou...

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GP was from me :)

You stated: "Most React apps need a backend too."

But in reality this is irrelevant to the conversation, because the top post was asking if comparing HTMX to React is like apples to oranges, which it is, because both tools accomplish different things with completely different feature-sets.

A good example of this is the implementation of TodoMVC. [1] React's implementation can live completely in the browser, and even be stateful. [2] An implementation with HTMX requires a server to handle templating/rendering. [3]

[1] https://todomvc.com/

[2] https://github.com/tastejs/todomvc/tree/master/examples/reac...

[3] https://github.com/rajasegar/todomvc-htmx

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In this post, I’ll walk you through my experiences building the TodoMVC app using HTMX. I'll cover the architectural considerations, handy tips, pros and cons, insights, and everything in between.

TodoMVC/examples has 40+ open source todo apps written with various popular and obscure frameworks: https://github.com/tastejs/todomvc/tree/master/examples

Svelte produces small bundles. The prototypical ToDoMVC application creates a bundle of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript of the following sizes in the different frameworks:

In a nutshell, it aims to provide examples apps built with different frameworks but still adhering to the same API spec. If you know TodoMVC, RealWorld is quite about the same philosophy but with more complete examples.

Thanks, but I was thinking more along the lines of a single semi-complex script, like what https://todomvc.com/ does for selecting a framework.

The odd thing is unison started purely as a language. Now there's a platform.

I often find the best way to understand complex things is to dig all the way back to when they were being thought up. In this case there's a blog post from 2017 that I still find useful when thinking about Unison:

https://pchiusano.github.io/2017-01-20/why-not-haskell.html

Key quote:

Composability is destroyed at program boundaries, therefore extend these boundaries outward, until all the computational resources of civilization are joined in a single planetary-scale computer

(With the open sourcing of the language I doubt it will be one computer anymore, but it's an interesting window into the original idea)

Personally I find there's a lot to this. It's interesting that we're really, really good at composing code within a program. I can map, filter, loop and do whatever I want to nested data structures with complete type safety to my heart's content. My editor's autocompleting, docs are showing up on hover, it's easy to test, all's well.

But as soon as I want cron involved, and maybe a little state-- this is all wrecked. Also deployment gets more annoying as they talk about a lot.

So I think Unison always had to have a platform to support bringing this stuff into the language, even though they built the language first.

I'd love to hear some opinions from outside Unison about how they like using this language, tooling and hosting.

I'd like to hear this too.

Also, it would be great if there was something like https://eugenkiss.github.io/7guis/ or https://todomvc.com/ for platforms that we could use to compare Unison, AWS, etc etc. Or is there already a 7GUIs for platforms that I don't know about?

git clone --depth=1 https://github.com/tastejs/todomvc.git