qwik VS fresh

Compare qwik vs fresh and see what are their differences.

qwik

Instant-loading web apps, without effort (by builderio)

fresh

The next-gen web framework. (by denoland)
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qwik fresh
130 122
20,064 11,766
1.8% 1.2%
9.9 9.7
about 6 hours ago 4 days ago
TypeScript TypeScript
MIT License MIT License
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qwik

Posts with mentions or reviews of qwik. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-03-18.
  • I Deployed My Own Cute Lil’ Private Internet (a.k.a. VPC)
    8 projects | dev.to | 18 Mar 2024
    Each app’s front end is built with Qwik and uses Tailwind for styling. The server-side is powered by Qwik City (Qwik’s official meta-framework) and runs on Node.js hosted on a shared Linode VPS. The apps also use PM2 for process management and Caddy as a reverse proxy and SSL provisioner. The data is stored in a PostgreSQL database that also runs on a shared Linode VPS. The apps interact with the database using Drizzle, an Object-Relational Mapper (ORM) for JavaScript. The entire infrastructure for both apps is managed with Terraform using the Terraform Linode provider, which was new to me, but made provisioning and destroying infrastructure really fast and easy (once I learned how it all worked).
  • JavaScript Bloat in 2024
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Feb 2024
    If you want to see the framework that does it right, check out Qwik.

    Incredibly small JS / CSS bundles. Only loads what it needs.

    https://qwik.dev/

  • How to Ensure Pixel-Perfect Comparisons Between Websites?
    2 projects | dev.to | 3 Feb 2024
    So here at Builder.io, my first task was to ensure that we migrated our site from Next.js to Qwik with a 100% pixel match. We aimed to utilize the power of Qwik to enhance our site's performance to unprecedented levels.
  • How (not) to contribute to open source
    3 projects | dev.to | 25 Jan 2024
    That was the last straw; cumulatively, I had spent more time looking for something to do than actually doing it. But I really wanted to contribute! So a few more months went by, until one day I met an Italian open source maintainer and long-time speaker, Giorgio Boa, who by the way was a guest on our podcast Continuous Delivery, and asked him for advice, saying that I wanted to be part of the OS world. He said he was working on a small library of Qwik components and could help me if I wanted. I gladly accepted, and we found an issue that seemed pretty straightforward. A few days after our conversation, I followed the little README guide to install everything required, and...nothing worked. So, after a few bad words, a lot of doubt about my skills as an engineer, and self pep talks to overcome my shyness about asking for help, I contacted Giorgio again. Even with his help, at first we had some trouble figuring out what was going wrong, but in the end I finally had a working setup.
  • AI for Web Devs: Faster Responses with HTTP Streaming
    2 projects | dev.to | 16 Jan 2024
    In the previous post, we got AI generated jokes into our Qwik application from OpenAI API. It worked, but the user experience suffered because we had to wait until the API completed the entire response before updating the client.
  • AI for Web Devs: Project Introduction & Setup
    6 projects | dev.to | 12 Jan 2024
    In this series, we’ll learn how to integrate OpenAI‘s AI services into an application built with Qwik, a JavaScript framework focused on the concept of resumability (this will be relevant to understand later).
  • Reddit just completed their migration out of React
    2 projects | /r/reactjs | 8 Dec 2023
    So for people considering moving away, look at qwik.builder.io. It's fast by default, it's hard to make it slow. It gives the browser as little work as possible.
  • The State of JS 2023 Survey is Now Open
    2 projects | dev.to | 22 Nov 2023
    React Server Components are the poster child for that trend, but other frameworks such as Solid or Qwik rethink client-server interactions from the ground up.
  • HTML First – Six principles for building simple, maintainable, web software
    13 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Nov 2023
    I agree in principle that HTML is the best option for a good user-experience, but it quickly breaks down in terms of developer-experience and maintainability. However, we don't need to compromise on either by using a solution like Qwik[1]. Where the page progressively becomes more interactive with JavaScript, and doing as much work as possible on the server beforehand.

    1. https://qwik.builder.io/

  • Learn how to install Qwik with Tailwind CSS and Flowbite
    4 projects | dev.to | 18 Aug 2023
    Qwik is a free and open-source front-end framework built by the team behind Builder that allows you to build instant-loading, scalable and interactive web apps by leveraging the precision lazy-loading feature by asynchronously loading component rendering, tasks, listeners, and styles.

fresh

Posts with mentions or reviews of fresh. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-02-13.
  • Fly.it Has GPUs Now
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Feb 2024
    Because I have secret magical powers that you probably don't, it's basically free for me. Here's the breakdown though:

    The application server uses Deno and Fresh (https://fresh.deno.dev) and requires a shared-1x CPU at 512 MB of ram. That's $3.19 per month as-is. It also uses 2GB of disk volume, which would cost $0.30 per month.

    As far as post generation goes: when I first set it up it used GPT-3.5 Turbo to generate prose. That cost me rounding error per month (maybe like $0.05?). At some point I upgraded it to GPT-4 Turbo for free-because-I-got-OpenAI-credits-on-the-drama-day reasons. The prose level increase wasn't significant.

    With the GPU it has now, a cold load of the model and prose generation run takes about 1.5 minutes. If I didn't have reasons to keep that machine pinned to a GPU (involving other ridiculous ventures), it would probably cost about 5 minutes per day (increased the time to make the math easier) of GPU time with a 40 GB volume (I now use Nous Hermes Mixtral at Q5_K_M precision, so about 32 GB of weights), so something like $6 per month for the volume and 2.5 hours of GPU time, or about $6.25 per month on an L40s.

    In total it's probably something like $15.75 per month. That's a fair bit on paper, but I have certain arrangements that make it significantly less cheap for me. I could re-architect Arsène to not have to be online 24/7, but it's frankly not worth it when the big cost is the GPU time and weights volume. I don't know of a way to make that better without sacrificing model quality more than I have to.

    For a shitpost though, I think it'd totally worth it to pay that much. It's kinda hilarious and I feel like it makes for a decent display of how bad things could get if we go full "AI replaces writers" like some people seem to want for some reason I can't even begin to understand.

    I still think it's funny that I have to explicitly tell people to not take financial advice from it, because if I didn't then they will.

  • Deno in 2023
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Feb 2024
    Deno has also created a Next.js competitor, Fresh. I found it a few weeks ago and am starting to go through the docs, looks like a good overall concept. https://fresh.deno.dev/
  • React is actively harmful if your website is static
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Jan 2024
  • We need an official backend web framework
    2 projects | /r/Deno | 11 Dec 2023
    https://fresh.deno.dev/ - Fresh embraces the tried and true design of server side rendering and progressive enhancement on the client side.
  • Hacktoberfest 2023 Recap
    10 projects | dev.to | 27 Oct 2023
    Along the way, I not only got the oppurtunity to revise old concepts that had blurred in my memory, but also learnt about new technologies like Fresh.js, a framework from Deno (a js runtime engine) that uses Preact, a React Routing library and used Chakra UI for the first time.
  • Why Can't I Just Use This Function? The Struggles with Code Reusability in JS
    2 projects | dev.to | 25 Oct 2023
    A whole project might be released as a server or framework. Frameworks like fresh, and astro) both have had things deep within them that I've wanted to reuse, within fresh it's the esbuild configuration, and islands functionality, and within astro it's the rendering of astro files themselves.
  • JavaScript First, Then TypeScript
    5 projects | dev.to | 15 Oct 2023
    The Fresh framework by Deno cited an improved developer experience due to tighter feedback loops.
  • Framework Interoperable Component Libraries Using Lit Web Components.
    8 projects | dev.to | 8 Oct 2023
    I've thought about this a lot while using other frameworks like Deno Fresh which uses Preact under the hood, mainly for JSX templating, but also for islands functionality. Within that framework you can't really use React component libraries. You start to think more about generating static HTML like this example from the Deno blog [A Whole Website in a Single JavaScript File, cont'd](https://deno.com/blog/a-whole-website-in-a-single-js-file-continued, which shows building a simple webpage with routes all in one typescript file, a site that serves no Javascript to the browser.
  • Next.js, Just Why?
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Sep 2023
    https://fresh.deno.dev/

    Deno supports importing node modules now so you can import whatever dependency you desire. I even used browser imports on the server, it's so flexible.

    Island based hydration is a great idea and it's a super productive framework to use. Fresh uses Preact, I spent the last few months using it and I never caught myself fighting with the framework, unlike nextjs where it's a constant struggle

  • Node.js vs. Deno vs. Bun: JavaScript runtime comparison
    9 projects | dev.to | 6 Sep 2023
    Deno also has a tooling ecosystem around it to enable developers to jumpstart their projects. Fresh is a web framework built for Deno and Lume is their static site generator.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing qwik and fresh you can also consider the following projects:

astro - The web framework for content-driven websites. ⭐️ Star to support our work!

solid - A declarative, efficient, and flexible JavaScript library for building user interfaces.

React - The library for web and native user interfaces.

Svelte - Cybernetically enhanced web apps

Next.js - The React Framework

vue-lazy-hydration - Lazy Hydration of Server-Side Rendered Vue.js Components

SvelteKit - web development, streamlined

Angular - Deliver web apps with confidence 🚀

remix - Build Better Websites. Create modern, resilient user experiences with web fundamentals.

vite - Next generation frontend tooling. It's fast!