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| pyyaml | ron | |
|---|---|---|
| 16 | 24 | |
| 2,418 | 3,096 | |
| 1.0% | 1.8% | |
| 3.9 | 7.9 | |
| 28 days ago | 5 days ago | |
| Python | Rust | |
| MIT License | Apache License 2.0 |
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pyyaml
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Cython 3.0 Released
Mostly because of PyYAML: https://github.com/yaml/pyyaml/issues/724
PyYAML knew about the breakage since january 2022[0], and nothing really happened. After a year and a half with lots of alphas and betas, I don't think there is much cython could do, short of fixing PyYAML themselves.
- I'm needing a hand, I do not understand some (seemingly) simple Python stuff.
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Using Rust to not have to touch Yaml in k8s land
Note some parsers, most notably pyyaml are still at yaml 1.1, because 13 years is just not enough time to update it.
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I accidentally used YAML.parse instead of JSON.parse, and it worked?
Many parsers either default to YAML pre-1.2 or do not even expose a YAML 1.2 option. PyYAML has no 1.2 option, for example. So unless Ansible is using something other than PyYAML...
Relevant (open) PR: https://github.com/yaml/pyyaml/pull/555
- The Norway Problem
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Strict YAML deserialization in Python with marshmallow
So I imported PyYaml and call load method:
ron
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XML is better than YAML
Whenever this kind of arguments come up, I am sad that RON (https://github.com/ron-rs/ron) is not better known. To me it feels like a cleaner and better JSON.
In any case, my little experience with it had made me hate YAML. Generally speaking, I have come to dislike any language with significant whitespace other than Haskell.
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What config format do you prefer?
Part of the reason why I migrated away from RON in system76-scheduler is because I needed to rely on the 253-untagged-enums branch from https://github.com/MomoLangenstein/ron. Which still isn't resolved today: https://github.com/ron-rs/ron/pull/451.
Sounds like RON - Rusty Object Notation
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Ron: Rusty Object Notation
Serde is strongly, strictly typed: you have to specify what type you want to decode to. It’s nothing like Python’s Pickle protocol.
See, for example, https://github.com/ron-rs/ron/blob/484fcab0686dfd18c7e29b6c1..., where it (in a type-inferency way) says “parse as Config”.
- JSON vs. XML with Douglas Crockford
- They're rebuilding the Death Star of complexity
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Show /r/rust: deser, an experimental serialization system for Rust
Cool project! I ran into some limitations of serde a while ago while trying to add some new features to ron: https://github.com/ron-rs/ron/pull/328. Not sure if that's the kind of issue you are planning to address, but either way it's a concrete example of a use case where serde is currently not a perfect fit.
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YAML: It's Time to Move On
You might like RON[1]. It's far from perfect (and far from complete), but seems nice so far.
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The KDL Document Language
While there's JSON5[1] now, it just has not the same level of native (ecosystem) support as JSON has.
[0]: https://github.com/ron-rs/ron
[1]: https://json5.org/
What are some alternatives?
confuse - painless YAML config files for Python
strictyaml - Type-safe YAML parser and validator.
toml.io - Source Code for toml.io
yamllint - A linter for YAML files.
json5 - JSON5 — JSON for Humans
kdl - the kdl document language specifications
yaml-reference-parser
minimal-yaml - A minimalist, zero-copy parser for a strict subset of the Yaml specification.
jsonnet - Jsonnet - The data templating language
marshmallow - A lightweight library for converting complex objects to and from simple Python datatypes.
typescript-json-schema - Generate json-schema from your Typescript sources