proton-mail VS ProtonMail Web Client

The linked site is very low on info high on outrageous claims. It is not the same as gmail and protons response to that paper are accurate imo. The fact is web clients are inherently insecure but you can run your own client entirely afaik (https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail). I don't think anybody has evidence of wrong doing but the service is proprietary so...

I was switched from beta to stable release but saw another update and when I clicked on it, I was reverted back to the old design and couldn't find a switch to go the beta again. I had to use beta.protonmail.com address to go back to the beta. The information you have written in comments below is inaccurate. I'm a bit disappointed by this.

The new web app has been open source for a while already and can be found here: https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail

Well, to log to beta you can simply go to beta.protonmail.com when needed.

If you want it to, you check check out the beta version (beta.protonmail.com) - that offers the ability to stay logged in on the web.

For example, if I wanted to add beta.protonmail.com to a container, I am running into the issue where I cannot add beta.protonmail.com to always open in a container because as soon as visiting the site, it would redirect to https://account.protonmail.com/login. So the beta.protonmail.com would never open in a container tab, but then it would open the login page by opening a brand new tab.

You've been pointed at https://beta.protonmail.com/ already.

Hi! Have you checked out beta.protonmail.com? It has a sleek new interface, and we think the login page will be more to your liking :)

The source code is here https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients

> Finally, in keeping with our long track record of transparency, Proton Pass is open source so anyone can review and verify our security architecture

They sure do enjoy writing that sentence without including any hyperlinks. This (https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/main/applicati...) appears to be the browser extension and https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/main/packages/... appears to look like the backend referenced in the extension's readme, but that directory's readme is zero bytes so (shrug)

Fork the frontend and make your own lightweight option

PS: I hope that we selfhosters will have a modern, efficient, easy to use mail suite one day with modern features like JMAP, good self-learning spam integration, automated checks and validations for SPF/DMARC/DKIM or whether the IP/host suddenly appears in a blocklist and integrated encryption at rest for emails. Something that isn't 30 services in a container image, with 30 different configuration styles. Maybe even with an API integrated that's compatible to the ProtonMail frontend (like the neutron server once intended to be). Anyway, I'm sorry for dreaming. ;)

And if you want to customize it further you can use Stylus to add custom CSS, Tampermonkey to add JS, or even modify the whole thing yourself from source (if you run it locally it syncs with your actual account).

There are lots of useful End to end encrypted webapps such as Protonmail, cryptpad, cryptee and many others. And part of why we trust them is that the client side code is open source, so we can see that end to end encryption is really going on and is really secure. Its impossible to verify what code they are running in their server, but if the data we send them is already encrypted we can rest easy.