prosto VS opaleye

Compare prosto vs opaleye and see what are their differences.

prosto

Prosto is a data processing toolkit radically changing how data is processed by heavily relying on functions and operations with functions - an alternative to map-reduce and join-groupby (by asavinov)
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MIT License GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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prosto

Posts with mentions or reviews of prosto. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-06-27.
  • Show HN: PRQL 0.2 – Releasing a better SQL
    16 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Jun 2022
    > Joins are what makes relational modeling interesting!

    It is the central part of RM which is difficult to model using other methods and which requires high expertise in non-trivial use cases. One alternative to how multiple tables can be analyzed without joins is proposed in the concept-oriented model [1] which relies on two equal modeling constructs: sets (like RM) and functions. In particular, it is implemented in the Prosto data processing toolkit [2] and its Column-SQL language. The idea is that links between tables are used instead of joins. A link is formally a function from one set to another set.

    [1] Joins vs. Links or Relational Join Considered Harmful https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301764816_Joins_vs_...

    [2] https://github.com/asavinov/prosto data processing toolkit radically changing how data is processed by heavily relying on functions and operations with functions - an alternative to map-reduce and join-groupby

  • Excel 2.0 – Is there a better visual data model than a grid of cells?
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 31 Mar 2022
    One idea is to use columns instead of cells. Each column has a definition in terms of other columns which might also be defined in terms of other columns. If you change value(s) in some source column then these changes will propagate through the graph of these column definitions. Some fragments of this general idea were implemented in different systems, for example, Power BI or Airtable.

    This approach was formalized in the concept-oriented model of data which relies on two basic elements: mathematical functions and mathematical sets. In contrast, most traditional data models rely on only sets. Functions are implemented as columns. The main difficulty in any formalization is how to deal with columns in multiple tables.

    This approach was implemented in the Prosto data processing toolkit: https://github.com/asavinov/prosto

  • Show HN: Query any kind of data with SQL powered by Python
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 25 Jan 2022
    Having Python expressions within a declarative language is a really good idea because we can combine low level logic of computations of values with high level logic of set processing.

    A similar approach is implemented in the Prosto data processing toolkit:

    https://github.com/asavinov/prosto

    Although Prosto is viewed as an alternative to Map-Reduce by relying on functions, it also supports Python User-Defined Functions in its Column-SQL:

  • No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Nov 2021
    Most of the self-service or no-code BI, ETL, data wrangling tools are am aware of (like airtable, fieldbook, rowshare, Power BI etc.) were thought of as a replacement for Excel: working with tables should be as easily as working with spreadsheets. This problem can be solved when defining columns within one table: ``ColumnA=ColumnB+ColumnC, ColumnD=ColumnAColumnE`` we get a graph of column computations* similar to the graph of cell dependencies in spreadsheets.

    Yet, the main problem is in working multiple tables: how can we define a column in one table in terms of columns in other tables? For example: ``Table1::ColumnA=FUNCTION(Table2::ColumnB, Table3::ColumnC)`` Different systems provided different answers to this question but all of them are highly specific and rather limited.

    Why it is difficult to define new columns in terms of other columns in other tables? Short answer is that working with columns is not the relational approach. The relational model is working with sets (rows of tables) and not with columns.

    One generic approach to working with columns in multiple tables is provided in the concept-oriented model of data which treats mathematical functions as first-class elements of the model. Previously it was implemented in a data wrangling tool called Data Commander. But them I decided to implement this model in the *Prosto* data processing toolkit which is an alternative to map-reduce and SQL:

    https://github.com/asavinov/prosto

    It defines data transformations as operations with columns in multiple tables. Since we use mathematical functions, no joins and no groupby operations are needed and this significantly simplifies and makes more natural the task of data transformations.

    Moreover, now it provides *Column-SQL* which makes it even easier to define new columns in terms of other columns:

    https://github.com/asavinov/prosto/blob/master/notebooks/col...

  • Show HN: Hamilton, a Microframework for Creating Dataframes
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Nov 2021
    Hamilton is more similar to the Prosto data processing toolkit which also relies on column operations defined via Python functions:

    https://github.com/asavinov/prosto

    However, Prosto allows for data processing via column operations in many tables (implemented as pandas data frames) by providing a column-oriented equivalents for joins and groupby (hence it has no joins and no groupbys which are known to be quite difficult and require high expertise).

    Prosto also provides Column-SQL which might be simpler and more natural in many use cases.

    The whole approach is based on the concept-oriented model of data which makes functions first-class elements of the model as opposed to having only sets in the relational model.

  • Against SQL
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Jul 2021
    One alternative to SQL (type of thinking) is Column-SQL [1] which is based on a new data model. This model is relies on two equal constructs: sets (tables) and functions (columns). It is opposed to the relational algebra which is based on only sets and set operations. One benefit of Column-SQL is that it does not use joins and group-by for connectivity and aggregation, respectively, which are known to be quite difficult to understand and error prone in use. Instead, many typical data processing patterns are implemented by defining new columns: link columns instead of join, and aggregate columns instead of group-by.

    More details about "Why functions and column-orientation" (as opposed to sets) can be found in [2]. Shortly, problems with set-orientation and SQL are because producing sets is not what we frequently need - we need new columns and not new table. And hence applying set operations is a kind of workaround due the absence of column operations.

    This approach is implemented in the Prosto data processing toolkit [0] and Column-SQL[1] is a syntactic way to define its operations.

    [0] https://github.com/asavinov/prosto Prosto is a data processing toolkit - an alternative to map-reduce and join-groupby

    [1] https://prosto.readthedocs.io/en/latest/text/column-sql.html Column-SQL (work in progress)

    [2] https://prosto.readthedocs.io/en/latest/text/why.html Why functions and column-orientation?

  • Functions matter – an alternative to SQL and map-reduce for data processing
    1 project | /r/datascience | 19 May 2021
  • NoSQL Data Modeling Techniques
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Apr 2021
    > This is closer to the way that humans perceive the world — mapping between whatever aspect of external reality you are interested in and the data model is an order of magnitude easier than with relational databases.

    One approach to modeling data based on mappings (mathematical functions) is the concept-oriented model [1] implemented in [2]. Its main feature is that it gets rid of joins, groupby and map-reduce by manipulating data using operations with functions (mappings).

    > Everything is pre-joined — you don’t have to disassemble objects into normalised tables and reassemble them with joins.

    One old related general idea is to assume the existence of universal relation. Such an approach is referred to as the universal relation model (URM) [3, 4].

    [1] A. Savinov, Concept-oriented model: Modeling and processing data using functions, Eprint: arXiv:1911.07225 [cs.DB], 2019 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337336089_Concept-o...

    [2] https://github.com/asavinov/prosto Prosto Data Processing Toolkit: No join-groupby, No map-reduce

    [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_relation_assumption

    [4] R. Fagin, A.O. Mendelzon and J.D. Ullman, A Simplified Universal Relation Assumption and Its Properties. ACM Trans. Database Syst., 7(3), 343-360 (1982).

  • Feature Processing in Go
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Dec 2020
    (Currently, it is not actively developed and the focus is moved to a similar project - https://github.com/asavinov/prosto - also focused on data preprocessing and feature engineering)

opaleye

Posts with mentions or reviews of opaleye. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-02-28.
  • What's your favorite Database EDSL/library in Haskell?
    4 projects | /r/haskell | 28 Feb 2023
    If you ever have any questions about Opaleye I'm happy to help. Feel free to open an issue to ask about anything any time.
  • Persistent vs. beam for production database
    2 projects | /r/haskell | 9 Feb 2023
    Sounds like Opaleye isn't on your list of choices, but if it is then feel free to ask me any questions, any time by filing an issue (I'm the Opaleye maintainer).
  • How to build a large-scale haskell backend for a photo sharing app (some questions)
    1 project | /r/haskell | 28 May 2022
    Opaleye is Posgres-only, and Postgres does such a good job of optimizing queries that performance issues basically don't arise. I have a long-standing invitation to improve Opaleye's query generation as soon as anyone can produce a repeatable example of a poorly-performing query. In Opaleye's eight years, no one ever has. There's a thread where two reports have come close, but it's still not clear that that's simply due to using a six year old version of Postgres.
  • What are things that the Haskell scene lacks the most?
    4 projects | /r/haskell | 21 Apr 2022
  • Out of memory when building product-profunctors
    2 projects | /r/haskell | 13 Mar 2022
    Nice! Well done. If you have any more questions about product-profunctors or Opaleye then please let me know. It's best to ask by [opening an issue](https://github.com/tomjaguarpaw/haskell-opaleye/issues/new).
  • Embedded Pattern Matching
    1 project | /r/haskell | 5 Sep 2021
  • How to simply do opaleye field type conversion
    1 project | /r/haskell | 21 Jul 2021
  • Against SQL
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Jul 2021
    The only way out that I can see is to design embedded domain specific languages (EDSLs) that inherit the expressiveness, composability and type safety from the host language. That's what Opaleye and Rel8 (Postgres EDSLs for Haskell do. Haskell is particularly good for this. The query language can be just a monad and therefore users can carry all of their knowledge of monadic programming to writing database queries.

    This approach doesn't resolve all of the author's complaints but it does solve many.

    Disclaimer: I'm the author of Opaleye. Rel8 is built on Opaleye. Other relational query EDSLs are available.

    [1] https://github.com/tomjaguarpaw/haskell-opaleye/

  • Combining Deep and Shallow Embedding of Domain-Specific Languages
    1 project | /r/haskell | 31 Jan 2021
    For an example of how this plays out in practice observe Opaleye's MaybeFields (generously contributed by Shane and /u/ocharles at Circuithub). The definition is essentially identical to Optional from the paper. Instead of a specialised typeclass Inhabited we use the ProductProfunctor NullSpec (which happens to conjure up an SQL NULL, but it could be any other witness).

What are some alternatives?

When comparing prosto and opaleye you can also consider the following projects:

Preql - An interpreted relational query language that compiles to SQL.

esqueleto - Bare bones, type-safe EDSL for SQL queries on persistent backends.

mito - The mitosheet package, trymito.io, and other public Mito code.

mywatch

rel8 - Hey! Hey! Can u rel8?

HDBC - Haskell Database Connectivity

hamilton - A scalable general purpose micro-framework for defining dataflows. THIS REPOSITORY HAS BEEN MOVED TO www.github.com/dagworks-inc/hamilton

database-migrate - database-migrate haskell library to assist with migration for *-simple sql backends.

Optimus - :truck: Agile Data Preparation Workflows made easy with Pandas, Dask, cuDF, Dask-cuDF, Vaex and PySpark

HongoDB - A Simple Key Value Store

cape-dataframes - Privacy transformations on Spark and Pandas dataframes backed by a simple policy language.

squeal-postgresql - Squeal, a deep embedding of SQL in Haskell