Poetry VS pyflow

Compare Poetry vs pyflow and see what are their differences.

Poetry

Python packaging and dependency management made easy (by python-poetry)

pyflow

An installation and dependency system for Python (by David-OConnor)
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Poetry

Posts with mentions or reviews of Poetry. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-03-02.
  • How to Enhance Content with Semantify
    4 projects | dev.to | 2 Mar 2024
    The Semantify repository provides an example Astro.js project. Ensure you have poetry installed, then build the project from the root of the repository:
  • Uv: Python Packaging in Rust
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Feb 2024
    Has anyone else been paying attention to how hilariously hard it is to package PyTorch in poetry?

    https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues/6409

  • Boring Python: dependency management (2022)
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Feb 2024
    Based on this comment 5 days ago[0], it's working? I'm not sure didn't dig in too far but based on that comment it seems fair to say that it's not fully Poetry's fault because torch removed hashes (which poetry needs to be effective) for a while only recently adding it back in.

    Not sure where I would stand if I fully investigated it tho.

    [0] https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues/6409#issuecom...

  • Fun with Avatars: Crafting the core engine | Part. 1
    4 projects | dev.to | 20 Jan 2024
    We will be running this project in Python 3.10 on Mac/Linux, and we will use Poetry to manage our dependencies. Later, we will bundle our app into a container using docker for deployment.
  • Python Packaging, One Year Later: A Look Back at 2023 in Python Packaging
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Jan 2024
    Here are the two main packaging issues I run into, specifically when using Poetry:

    1) Lack of support for building extension modules (as mentioned by the article). There is a workaround using an undocumented feature [0], which I've tried, but ultimately decided it was not the right approach. I still use Poetry, but build the extension as a separate step in CI, rather than kludging it into Poetry.

    2) Lack of support for offline installs [1], e.g. being able to download the dependencies, copy them to another machine, and perform the install from the downloaded dependencies (similar to using "pip --no-index --find-links=."). Again, you can work around this (by using "poetry export --with-credentials" and "pip download" for fetching the dependencies, then firing up pypiserver [2] to run a local PyPI server on the offline machine), but ideally this would all be a first class feature of Poetry, similar to how it is in pip.

    I don't have the capacity to create Pull Requests for addressing these issues with Poetry, and I'm very grateful for the maintainers and those who do contribute. Instead, on the linked issues I share my notes on the matter, in the hope that it may at least help others and potentially get us closer to a solution.

    Regardless, I'm sticking with Poetry for now. Though to be fair, the only other Python packaging tools I've used extensively are Pipenv and pip/setuptools. It's time consuming to thoroughly try out these other packaging tools, and is generally lower priority than developing features/fixing bugs, so it's helpful to read about the author's experience with these other tools, such as PDM and Hatch.

    [0] https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues/2740

    [1] https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues/2184

    [2] https://pypi.org/project/pypiserver/

  • Introducing Flama for Robust Machine Learning APIs
    11 projects | dev.to | 18 Dec 2023
    We believe that poetry is currently the best tool for this purpose, besides of being the most popular one at the moment. This is why we will use poetry to manage the dependencies of our project throughout this series of posts. Poetry allows you to declare the libraries your project depends on, and it will manage (install/update) them for you. Poetry also allows you to package your project into a distributable format and publish it to a repository, such as PyPI. We strongly recommend you to learn more about this tool by reading the official documentation.
  • Poetry VS instld - a user suggested alternative
    2 projects | 9 Dec 2023
  • Navigating the Release Journey of txtToWeb
    2 projects | dev.to | 27 Nov 2023
    For the release of txtToWeb, I opted for Poetry as my release tool and TestPyPI as the package registry. Poetry's simplicity and TestPyPI's environment for testing releases were crucial factors in my decision.
  • 📜 RepoList - A tool to generate wordlists based on GitHub repositories
    5 projects | dev.to | 24 Nov 2023
    I've used Python with Poetry to create Repolist. Poetry is fairly new to me and It was a great experience using it. Easy setup and dependency management. With few commands, I was able to create the project and publish it to PyPI. I will definitely use it for my future projects.
  • My first Software Release using GitHub Release
    6 projects | dev.to | 24 Nov 2023
    There were various approaches recommended depending on our language and ecosystem. My classmates who developed using Node.js were recommended npm, and PyPI or poetry for Python. Since my program is written in C++, I was recommended to look into one of vcpkg or conan, but I ultimately did not use either package manager.

pyflow

Posts with mentions or reviews of pyflow. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-02-15.
  • Uv: Python Packaging in Rust
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Feb 2024
    Very cool! Of note, I made something along these lines a few years ago, although with a slightly broader scope to also include managing and installing python versions. I abandoned it due to lack of free time, and edge cases breaking things. The major challenge is that Python packages that aren't wheels can do surprising things due to setup.py running arbitrary code. (https://github.com/David-OConnor/pyflow)
  • Incompatible Child Dependencies -- how are they resolved?
    2 projects | /r/learnpython | 21 Oct 2022
    Pyflow
  • Freezing Requirements with Pip-Tools
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Jul 2022
    Pyflow takes care of the use when you need pyenv to isolate different python versions, pipx to isolate some global python-based tools, and isolated, reproducible builds per project with on tool. I highly recommend people to give it go.

    https://github.com/David-OConnor/pyflow#a-thoroughly-biased-...

  • Empty npm package '-' has over 700,000 downloads
    6 projects | /r/programming | 7 Mar 2022
    Pyflow is a similar implementation of PEP582. NGL I wonder if it's better because of how good Rust stuff is. Probably a lot faster. Looks like you can install it via Pypi. I should've tested it before moving to PDM. Though it seems dev is a bit slow. Hmmm.
  • pip and cargo are not the same
    5 projects | /r/rust | 23 Feb 2022
    I’m personally complaining that pip is so much behind cargo. I have some hope with Pyflow though.
  • XKCD | Python Environment
    6 projects | /r/Python | 12 Jan 2022
    I literally stumbled into this issue again today. Has anyone leveraged Pyflow before? It looks pretty slick for keeping things organized. I don't do heavy dev work, just need something to keep things generally tidy. Was curious if anyone had used it and their opinion on it.
  • Moving from pipenv to poetry or PDM
    6 projects | /r/Python | 19 Dec 2021
    PDM is pretty new so it’s not entirely clear how it’ll play out but if you’re interested in PEP 582 then it’s really that or pyflow.
  • Python: Please stop screwing over Linux distros
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Nov 2021
  • Cooperative Package Management for Python
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Sep 2021
    It's a good safeguard, and it's going in the direction of the other initiatives to make python package management default behavior saner.

    PEP 852 is the another one to follow up: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0582/

    It basically uses the concept of node_modules, making python interpreters local any local __pypackages__ directory. There are 2 differences though:

    - unlike JS, python can only have one version of one lib

    - but since having several versions of python often matters, you may have several __pypackages__/X.Y sub dirs to catter to each of them

    It does also force you to use "-m" to use commands, which is the best practice anyway. I hope it will make jupyter fix "-m" on windows for them because that's a blocker for beginners.

    If you are not already using "-m", start now. It solves a lot of different problems with running python cli programs.

    E.G: instead of running "black" or "pylint", do "python -m black" or "python -m pylint". Or course you may want to chose a specific version of python, so "python3.8 -m black" for unix, or "py -3.8 -m black" on windows.

    To test out __pypackages__, give a try to the pdm project: https://github.com/pdm-project/pdm

    At last, some other tools that I wish people knew more about that solves packaging issues:

    - pyflow (https://github.com/David-OConnor/pyflow): it's a package manager like poetry, but it also install whatever python you want like pyenv. Except it provides the binary, no need to compile anything. It's a young project, but I wish it succeeds because it's really a great concept.

    - shiv (shiv.readthedocs.io/): it leverage the concept of zipapp, meaning the ability that python has to execute python inside a zip file. It's a successor to pex. Basically it lets you bundle your code + all deps from virtualenv inside a zip, like a Java .war file. You can then run the resulting zip, a .pyz file, like if it was a regular .py file. It will unzip on the first run automatically. It makes deployment almost as easy as with golang.

    - nuitka (shiv.readthedocs.io/): take your code and all dependancies, turn them into C, and compiles it. Although it does require a bit of setup, since it needs headers and a compiler, it results reliably in a standalone compiled executable that will run on the same architecture with no need for anything else. Also it will speed up your Python program, up to 4 times.

  • Ask HN: Let's compare Python dependency managers
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Jun 2021
    I use my own: Pyflow (https://github.com/David-OConnor/pyflow)

    I use it because I'm not happy with the install-on-the-fly dependency resolution used by the others. This uses package-specified deps when avail (most wheels), and a custom database otherwise.

    Also manages Python version / installations, and is a simpler process.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Poetry and pyflow you can also consider the following projects:

Pipenv - Python Development Workflow for Humans.

PDM - A modern Python package and dependency manager supporting the latest PEP standards

hatch - Modern, extensible Python project management

pyenv - Simple Python version management

pip-tools - A set of tools to keep your pinned Python dependencies fresh.

virtualenv - Virtual Python Environment builder

conda - A system-level, binary package and environment manager running on all major operating systems and platforms.

pipx - Install and Run Python Applications in Isolated Environments

flit - Simplified packaging of Python modules

PyInstaller - Freeze (package) Python programs into stand-alone executables

pip - The Python package installer

rez - An integrated package configuration, build and deployment system for software