phoenix_live_view VS pulldown-cmark

Then there are stack-specific libraries: StimulusReflex for Rails, Phoenix LiveView, Laravel Livewire, Unicorn and Tetra for Django, Blazor for .NET, … and the list goes on.

I came across this pretty interesting library on Hacker News that tries to implement LiveView on the JVM. Link to GitHub.

Hi everyone, I just launched Podsee(https://pods.ee) for podcast listeners, lovers. You can search and listen to podcasts at Podsee. What makes it different is that you can get the AI transcript for an episode.

It started as a side project after I resigned my job one year ago. As a programmer, I love Elixir (http://elixir-lang.org/) and Phoenix LiveView(https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view), and want to make a product with it. So I build Podsee.

I'm planning to add more AI features to it, like summarize the episode audio, episode to comics, etc.

I'd love to invite you all to try out the product and would appreciate hearing your feedback! Thanks!

"HTML over the wire" generally refers to tech like [0] Liveview, [1] Hotwire, [2] LiveView, [3] Blazor, etc. They aren't about about ditching JS and more about not writing your HTML in JS (and yes, SSR).

[0] https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view

* https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view

Some of the 1.7 stuff has an alert banner that pops up when the connection is broken. I think that could really help.

However I haven't put that in our app as I have seen other issues of flakey connection reconnect issues, and I would hate to make any of those more visible with a flashing notice.

- https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/issues...

HEEx template language was created, an extension to EEx

Also to your point, the latest LiveView release moved some helper utilities around and you need to add "import Phoenix.Component" in places. I could be wrong but I think the latest live code gen still isn't setting up correct imports. More info here: https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

If you need any kind of interactivity on the frontend, but are more comfortable with the backend, I would suggest looking at Phoenix LiveView [0] or a similar server-rendered HTML technology for your language of your choice [1].

In short, these solutions take JavaScript out of the mix entirely and basically let you deal with a single logical "app", rather than a separate frontend & backend.

[0] https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view

It uses JS though, as it is required to open a WS connection and change content without refreshing the page, but that looks like it is abstracted from the user. https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/tree/master/priv/static

As a platform that allows expressiveness, we want our users to be bold enough to ask and answer questions with either plain text or some markdowns. Compiling markdown to HTML in Rust can be done via the pulldown-cmark crate. We used it in this utility function:

I also really like this paradigm. It’s just that in old crusty null-terminated C style this is really awkward because the input data must be copied or modified. But it’s not an issue when using slices (length and pointer). Unfortunately most of the C standard library and many operating system APIs expect that.

I’ve seen this referred to as a pull parser in a Rust library? (https://github.com/raphlinus/pulldown-cmark)

Really glad to see this! Really want an easy way to render graphs in Rust without resorting to the graphiz binary.

What is the current status? Not seeing it listed anywhere, like if there are features that are not supported or if it uses certain layout algorithms but others are desired.

Would you be willing to make a `[lib]` available? I see you have a `lib.rs` but it'd be great if using it didn't require pulling in `[[bin]]` dependencies (you can mark them as optional and mark `required-features` on your bin like pulldown-cmark does [0] or split it into a separate crate in a workspace). It'd also be good to find an available name for the lib and get it published (looks like someone might be squatting on `layout`).

[0] https://github.com/raphlinus/pulldown-cmark/blob/master/Carg...

Author here. I actually was not aware of cmark.ex - thanks for pointing it out.

In this case the code reuse was more important than pure native speed. We already had a Rust library that used pulldown-cmark [1] with some custom tweaks that we wanted to duplicate. Maybe this behavior could have been copied using cmark.ex too (we thought about doing this in pure Elixir, as mentioned in the post), but given how straightforward Rustler made integrating our existing code, this seems like the better choice.

[1] https://github.com/raphlinus/pulldown-cmark

It turned out that making the most popular Elixir Markdown processor, Earmark (originally written by Dave Thomas) and pulldown-cmark, a Rust Markdown processor, produce the same output was going to be difficult. We also required some customization that was not available in both libraries.

The crate that's closest to production quality code is pulldown-cmark, but I don't hold it up as an example of well-written code, because it's not particularly easy to understand and there's a lot of very low level code to consume the CommonMark syntax - that helps with code bloat and compile time, but not clarity.

The Markdown processor is pulldown-cmark, which supports these extensions: