petite-vue VS vanilla-teuxdeux

Something similar: https://github.com/vuejs/petite-vue (6kb subset of Vue) but the project seems abandoned.

I started with petite-vue because Vue seemed too large of a file size for my simple projects. Wanting to use Vue but after reading some of the comments, I might go with Svelte.

Like: petite-vue And/or a zero-dependency lightweight state management solution.

I recommend trying https://github.com/vuejs/petite-vue as a minimalist library for declarative reactive view/model data binding, it could at least halve the code used for generating view

Maybe I’ve spent 5 days on and off researching this. I was able to recreate it perfectly using petite-vue https://github.com/vuejs/petite-vue which is nice, but it does not have all the features I need in Vue3

“petite-vue is indeed intended to fill the gap for progressive enhancement cases where Vue 3 would be too heavy-handed.

It is not abandoned, but rather it is considered "done" because the scope is well defined. I don't think it needs more features (as that would defeat the purpose of being lean and minimal). If you find yourself needing more than what petite-vue provides, you can either go up to Vue proper, or try https://alpinejs.dev/.

That said, I should update the README to indicate this more clearly.”

Github discussion: https://github.com/vuejs/petite-vue/discussions/53

You might consider doing as much as possible in Razor pages and then use https://github.com/vuejs/petite-vue for any functionality you might (components/interactivity/etc.) need.

As another alternative, you could look at petite-vue if you just want to sprinkle from Vue-like components throughout your site... Doesn't have the full force of vue, but maybe it's enough.

A few years back I stumbled into something a bit more complex, still done in pure js, just for the hell of it: https://github.com/morris/vanilla-todo

And then wrote my own version, with code a lot closer to modern react, with undo/redo and other niceties - https://github.com/ivank/vanilla-teuxdeux

And what I leaned is that is astonishingly easy to write code that would be understandable to people coming from the redux crowd. Maybe that’s because redux is just such a simple concept in and off itself - a glorified switch on a big object. And it’s also quite easy to hack a simple version of vdom to make it all work.

What’s missing from all those vanilla js efforts though turned out to be testability. There is a ton of code in the modern js world just to allow you to mock/test your components, and thats for me the real tragedy of vanilla js.

I have no idea why W3C crowd have not invested into standardizing js tests in all these years…

Kinda like restarting windows to fix it, rather than figuring out whats wrong.

And you could get quite far that way. 37signal’s basecamp was like that - an html app with vanilla js sprinkled throughout. Worked great.

But there is a limit in complexity. JS and html are great for building websites, but if you want to build an actual application, you need to be really clever and accept a lot of limitations. React just lifts the ceiling of what you can do, without being all to complicated.

And you can use the technics of react without react itself too, once you understand what it is all about - https://github.com/ivank/vanilla-teuxdeux

Recently I went on a deep dive to test for myself if it’s even possible to write a modern looking web application with no build tools or dependencies, and turns out its very doable - https://github.com/ivank/vanilla-teuxdeux

Web tech has gone a long way and gives us a ton of stuff for free, without the need to reimplement it all in JS. Though the apis themselves are often rather awkward.

Sadly, the biggest missing piece in all of it though is testing.

Hah last year I did my case study of building an app with only web tech - no dependencies, build steps etc. - https://github.com/ivank/vanilla-teuxdeux

Figured out virtual dom is the one big missing piece to make webdev workable without any dependencies at all.

I can see other people are getting to similar conclusions:)