owncast VS Invidious

The Owncast project is planning the early stages of some re-architecting in our Go codebase to prepare for future features. I’d love to chat with you about the project! https://github.com/owncast/owncast

Owncast is what you want.

You can use OwnCast https://owncast.online/ if you host it on your own domain.

The main stage of talks are planned to be live streamed on the Monero Community Workgroup YouTube channel and to an Owncast self-hosted server (URL TBA).

it is, but OwnCast and OpenStreamingPlatform are probably closer to what Twitch does.

I always recommend people to contribute to software they use themselves. For me that is self-hosted servers like Mealie (Python+Vue) and Owncast (Go+React). Especially Owncast is a project that imo is comparatively easy to get into because the setup is kept really simple, documentation is good and the maintainers are super nice :) There are some good first issues, but in addition to that there are also often "debug problem X" issues that imo help one get into a project quick because you'll read a lot of code for them.

I've heard of owncast have not used it myself but might be worth a try

Youtube seems to be doing some A/B testing with the comment system which has made proxies like Invidious and yt-dlp/Newpipe unable to load comments. There is a patch for Invidious [1] which solves this problem but it is not in master yet. I tested it on my own instance and it does solve the problem.

[1] https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/pull/4576

BTW, I don't understand the workaround: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/pull/4552/files

Which was taken from here: https://github.com/LuanRT/YouTube.js/pull/624

Could anybody explain it to me?

Use a Youtube proxy like Invidious [1], problem solved and you get to subscribe to channels without telling the Beast about your interests. Add Sponsorblock (which supports Invidious) to get rid of any in-stream advertising which remains and you'll be transported back to those hallowed times of yore when men were men, women were women and advertising was something you found in newspapers. Youtube will try to make this harder just like Xitter is trying to make it harder to use proxies like Nitter [2].

[1] https://github.com/iv-org/invidious

[2] https://github.com/zedeus/nitter

Going to drop this here for others who haven't heard of it https://invidious.io/

Now, how do we fix this? YouTube's ad model sucks. Their algorithm sucks. Their front page sucks. They've captured a bunch of creators though so often YouTube is the only place you can find someone.

I want those creators to benefit from me viewing their videos. I want the fact that I view a video and like it to help other people find that video in their recommendations. I want an algorithm that shows me things that are interesting and relevant not one that promotes the spammiest and most ad heavy videos that barely have anything to do with my watch history.

Having an alternative front end is nice but I don't want to rob YouTube of the money they spend on hosting the videos.

So, how do we do this?

Peer to peer fails when there is little interest in something or when most people leech and it sucks for archiving old content.

Hosting it all in one place is super expensive and hard for a small group to manage without turning into YouTube.

Maybe we could find a way for the creators to host their own content and get paid when people view it while being part of a large federated network for easy discoverability?

Please list any projects you know of, I'm sure there are a lot of people here who would be willing to contribute or donate.

Sometimes a half-solution will do, like Invidious or Piped.

[0] https://invidious.io/

[1] https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped

Invidious