Opal VS joystick

It's been a long time dream for me since about 2013 when I started getting deep into Ruby and Rails, to be able to write Ruby code for the frontend instead of JavaScript. I was a lover and adopter of CoffeeScript (which had it's flaws and imperfections), but that mostly got killed by ES6. I wrote some PoCs with Opal[1] that felt pretty good to write, but the overhead was rough (this was many years ago so things might be different now) and I never really felt like I didn't have to know about or care about the underlying javascript. I tend to discard leaky abstractions as I feel they often add more complexity than they were meant to cover in the first place.

Has anybody used this or Opal or anything else? What is the state of "write your frontend in Ruby" nowadays?

[1]: https://github.com/opal/opal

Every time I see a respectable project use a Code of Conduct I remind myself that, unfortunately, Caroline Ada won[1]

[1] https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941

But we shouldn't overstate the difference: the JS and Ruby object models are actually similar in how dynamic both of them are. This makes Ruby-to-JS compilers like Opal easier to implement, according to an Opal maintainer.

This is an interview with the author of Opal, here's the project:

https://github.com/opal/opal

Not the OP, but from what I remember they would seek out every possible opportunity in every single possible open source community they could find and propose the CoC that they wrote. 0 contributions to the projects, with the exception of demanding that people implement incredibly verbose CoC's in their projects under the guise of "protecting the minorities contributing to the projects".

Most infamous instance is probably this one, in the Opal repo: https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941

As well as this thread in the Ruby issue tracker that devolves into pure chaos with Ada refusing to actually participate in any of the valid points others bring up: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004

And I'm sure there's many other instances if you look around a bit.

My experience with ruby for front end web dev is via https://opalrb.com/

Here's an example of the creator of the most adopted CoC (the Contributor Covenant) trying to get an open source contributor removed from a project due to his political opinions expressed on Twitter which she didn't like and found offensive.

So ruby has a JS transpiler - opal - https://opalrb.com/

I tried using it a little bit but the reality is if you need JS to make your app more interactable it's really worth it to just learn some JS. As soon as you need something complex the extra layer of abstraction just gets in the way and becomes more of a headache, and if you don't need anything complex then you don't need JS in the first place.

I stumbled upon this thing from years ago. I did some more digging to see what other communities thought about it. Turns out that a lot of people are really against Coraline's side.

SEEKING WORK, Tennessee, United States

Remote: Yes

I'm a full-stack, JavaScript/Node.js developer and designer. I'm the creator of the Joystick JavaScript framework [1], Push deployment service [2], and Mod CSS framework [3].

I also have experience with MongoDB, PostgreSQL, and MariaDB (limited but competent) and devops (K8s + Docker and bare-metal linux admin, the latter preferred for simplicity/stability).

Currently looking to take on clients who are open to using Joystick, Push, and Mod to design and develop their app. Because it's still at a pre-release version, I'm willing to work out deals around pricing to get some more test-cases under my belt. Ideal client is a solopreneur w/ funding or entrepreneur with previous experience + funding. Open to working with startups (early or established), but only on greenfield projects where use of Joystick is ok.

Email: [email protected].

[1] https://cheatcode.co/joystick

[2] https://cheatcode.com/push

[3] https://cheatcode.co/mod

There is. I was frustrated by all of the chaos and built a solution [1]. Not too far of from an RC1 and then a 1.0 (which is being done slowly so I can freeze APIs and avoid the typical JS rug pulls).

[1] https://github.com/cheatcode/joystick

I've been (slowly) writing a new type of OSS license around this exact concept so it's easier to (legally) stop LLMs hoovering up IP [1] (under "derivative works not permitted").

[1] https://github.com/cheatcode/joystick/blob/development/LICEN...

Joystick [1] will let you go. No Stockholm syndrome. No lotion in the basket.

[1] https://github.com/cheatcode/joystick

If you share the sentiment of the author and want to get on the road to recovery, I submit Joystick [1]. I had similar frustrations to this and decided to do something about it [2].

[1] https://github.com/cheatcode/joystick

[2] Please give it an honest a look and save the XKCD "muh standards" comic and accompanying snark for after you've taken it for a spin.