ninja VS Cap'n Proto

Compare ninja vs Cap'n Proto and see what are their differences.

ninja

a small build system with a focus on speed (by ninja-build)

Cap'n Proto

Cap'n Proto serialization/RPC system - core tools and C++ library (by capnproto)
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ninja Cap'n Proto
51 66
10,456 11,134
1.2% 1.2%
7.9 9.3
7 days ago 19 days ago
C++ C++
Apache License 2.0 GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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ninja

Posts with mentions or reviews of ninja. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-12-26.
  • Using Make – writing less Makefile
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Dec 2023
  • What was used to build C++ programs before Cmake?
    5 projects | /r/cpp_questions | 5 Jul 2023
    Ninja showed real promise for a while, but then CMake grew up and people stopped seeing a reason to leave it behind.
    5 projects | /r/cpp_questions | 5 Jul 2023
  • I have spent two whole work days trying to install GLEW
    6 projects | /r/GraphicsProgramming | 3 Jul 2023
    warning: Starting with the September 2023 release, the default triplet for vcpkg libraries will change from x86-windows to the detected host triplet (x64-windows). To resolve this message, add --triplet x86-windows to keep the same behavior. Computing installation plan... The following packages will be built and installed: * egl-registry:x86-windows -> 2022-09-20 glew:x86-windows -> 2.2.0#3 * opengl:x86-windows -> 2022-12-04#3 * opengl-registry:x86-windows -> 2022-09-29#1 * vcpkg-cmake:x64-windows -> 2023-05-04 * vcpkg-cmake-config:x64-windows -> 2022-02-06#1 Additional packages (*) will be modified to complete this operation. Detecting compiler hash for triplet x86-windows... A suitable version of powershell-core was not found (required v7.2.11) Downloading portable powershell-core 7.2.11... Downloading powershell-core... https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/download/v7.2.11/PowerShell-7.2.11-win-x86.zip->C:\vcpkg\downloads\PowerShell-7.2.11-win-x86.zip Downloading https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/download/v7.2.11/PowerShell-7.2.11-win-x86.zip Extracting powershell-core... error: while detecting compiler information: The log file content at "C:\vcpkg\buildtrees\detect_compiler\stdout-x86-windows.log" is: -- Downloading https://github.com/ninja-build/ninja/releases/download/v1.10.2/ninja-win.zip -> ninja-win-1.10.2.zip... -- Configuring x86-windows CMake Error at scripts/cmake/vcpkg_execute_required_process.cmake:112 (message): Command failed: C:/vcpkg/downloads/tools/ninja/1.10.2-windows/ninja.exe -v Working Directory: C:/vcpkg/buildtrees/detect_compiler/x86-windows-rel/vcpkg-parallel-configure Error code: 1 See logs for more information: C:\vcpkg\buildtrees\detect_compiler\config-x86-windows-rel-CMakeCache.txt.log C:\vcpkg\buildtrees\detect_compiler\config-x86-windows-out.log
  • Installer script for CMake, Ninja, and Meson
    4 projects | /r/bash | 1 Jun 2023
    I thought I would share my custom installer script for the latest GitHub versions of CMake, Ninja, and Meson.
  • Building and Running Pidgin and Finch 3
    3 projects | dev.to | 6 May 2023
    Now that you have your build system all generated you can go ahead and build everything. By default Meson will use Ninja as the build tool. Ninja is similar to Make but much much faster. You can also generate additional build systems but that's outside of the scope of this post.
  • Is there any way to configure my project so I can work on it on both Windows and MacOS?
    2 projects | /r/sdl | 16 Apr 2023
    There are also some other tools like https://ninja-build.org/ that you might prefer using instead
  • Just: A Command Runner
    27 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Jan 2023
    Oh excellent, then better (and more portable!) tools are available:

    http://pants.build

    https://ninja-build.org

    https://buck.build

    and, if you hate yourself: https://bazel.build

  • Classifying Python virtual environment workflows
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Jan 2023
  • Flutter 3 on Arch Linux: 始め方
    5 projects | dev.to | 1 Jan 2023
    Doctor summary (to see all details, run flutter doctor -v): [✓] Flutter (Channel stable, 3.3.10, on Artix Linux 6.0.12-artix1-1, locale en_US.UTF-8) [✓] Android toolchain - develop for Android devices (Android SDK version 33.0.1) [✗] Chrome - develop for the web (Cannot find Chrome executable at google-chrome) ! Cannot find Chrome. Try setting CHROME_EXECUTABLE to a Chrome executable. [✗] Linux toolchain - develop for Linux desktop ✗ clang++ is required for Linux development. It is likely available from your distribution (e.g.: apt install clang), or can be downloaded from https://releases.llvm.org/ ✗ CMake is required for Linux development. It is likely available from your distribution (e.g.: apt install cmake), or can be downloaded from https://cmake.org/download/ ✗ ninja is required for Linux development. It is likely available from your distribution (e.g.: apt install ninja-build), or can be downloaded from https://github.com/ninja-build/ninja/releases ✗ pkg-config is required for Linux development. It is likely available from your distribution (e.g.: apt install pkg-config), or can be downloaded from https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/pkg-config/ [✓] Android Studio (version 2021.3) [✓] Connected device (1 available) [✓] HTTP Host Availability ! Doctor found issues in 2 categories.

Cap'n Proto

Posts with mentions or reviews of Cap'n Proto. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-09.
  • Show HN: Comprehensive inter-process communication (IPC) toolkit in modern C++
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Apr 2024
    - may massively reduce the latency involved.

    Those sharing Cap'n Proto-encoded data may have particular interest. Cap'n Proto (https://capnproto.org) is fantastic at its core task - in-place serialization with zero-copy - and we wanted to make the IPC (inter-process communication) involving capnp-serialized messages be zero-copy, end-to-end.

    That said, we paid equal attention to other varieties of payload; it's not limited to capnp-encoded messages. For example there is painless (<-- I hope!) zero-copy transmission of arbitrary combinations of STL-compliant native C++ data structures.

    To help determine whether Flow-IPC is relevant to you we wrote an intro blog post. It works through an example, summarizes the available features, and has some performance results. https://www.linode.com/blog/open-source/flow-ipc-introductio...

    Of course there's nothing wrong with going straight to the GitHub link and getting into the README and docs.

    Currently Flow-IPC is for Linux. (macOS/ARM64 and Windows support could follow soon, depending on demand/contributions.)

  • I don’t understand zero copy
    2 projects | /r/rust | 7 Dec 2023
    The second one is to encode data in such a way that you can read it and operate on it directly from the buffer. You write data in a layout that is the same, or easily transformed as types in memory. To do that you usually need to encode with a known schema, only Sized types to efficiently compute fields locations as offsets in the buffer, and you usually represent pointers as offset into the encode. You can look at capnproto protocol for instance https://capnproto.org/
  • OpenTF Renames Itself to OpenTofu
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Sep 2023
    Worked well for Cap'n Proto (the cerealization protocol)! https://capnproto.org/
  • A Critique of the Cap'n Proto Schema Language
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Aug 2023
    With all due respect, you read completely wrong.

    * The very first use case for which Cap'n Proto was designed was to be the protocol that Sandstorm.io used to talk between sandbox and supervisor -- an explicitly adversarial security scenario.

    * The documentation explicitly calls out how implementations should manage resource exhaustion problems like deep recursion depth (stack overflow risk).

    * The implementation has been fuzz-tested multiple ways, including as part of Google's oss-fuzz.

    * When there are security bugs, I issue advisories like this:

    https://github.com/capnproto/capnproto/tree/v2/security-advi...

    * The primary aim of the entire project is to be a Capability-Based Security RPC protocol.

  • Sandstorm: Open-source platform for self-hosting web app
    15 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Jun 2023
    I like how they use capability-based security [0] and use Cap'n Proto protocol. This is another technology that is slow to get broad adoption, but has many things going for when compared to e.g. Protocol Buffers (Cap'n Proto is created by the primary author of Protobuf v2, Kenton Varda).

    [0] https://sandstorm.io/how-it-works#capabilities

    [1] https://capnproto.org

  • Flatty - flat message buffers with direct mapping to Rust types without packing/unpacking
    4 projects | /r/rust | 10 May 2023
    Related but not Rust-specific: FlatBuffers, Cap'n Proto.
  • Distributing data with a binary
    2 projects | /r/rust | 1 May 2023
    Cap'n proto would be ideal for this. It can read out the data from a const byte array (using include_bytes! macro) directly without a separate deserialise step. protobuf and bincode would require deserialising the data into a heap allocated structure on startup or first use. Because your binary will be memory-mapped by the OS, the data can also be lazily paged in as it is read, requiring less I/O if you don't read the whole file.
  • Any sort of plugin engine with dynamic load ability and any limitations?
    5 projects | /r/rust | 23 Apr 2023
    This is only possible when you don't need serialization, though. However, just last week I started looking into Cap'n Proto to solve this issue. It's a serialization format that's designed for shared memory and so provides data types that can be used directly with no conversion. There's a full Rust implementation for it.
  • Building High-Performance Web Services with Golang gRPC
    2 projects | /r/golang | 17 Apr 2023
    Google thinks gRPC is fast enough for there use case. What do you consider high-performance? Plain UDP with custom TCP-like stack? https://capnproto.org/?
  • Protobuffers Are Wrong
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Mar 2023
    Is Cap'n'Proto [0] as awesome as it sounds? Anyone have any first-hand experience and can speak on it?

    Thanks!

    [0]: https://capnproto.org/

What are some alternatives?

When comparing ninja and Cap'n Proto you can also consider the following projects:

gRPC - The C based gRPC (C++, Python, Ruby, Objective-C, PHP, C#)

meson - The Meson Build System

Protobuf - Protocol Buffers - Google's data interchange format

FlatBuffers - FlatBuffers: Memory Efficient Serialization Library

ZeroMQ - ZeroMQ core engine in C++, implements ZMTP/3.1

SCons

Apache Thrift - Apache Thrift

Bazel - a fast, scalable, multi-language and extensible build system

MessagePack - MessagePack serializer implementation for Java / msgpack.org[Java]

Invoke - Pythonic task management & command execution.

BitBake - The official bitbake Git is at https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake/. Do not open issues or file pull requests here.

nanomsg - nanomsg library