Apache NetBeans VS lite

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More informative page: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20

The IDE we use on this course is called NetBeans, and we use it with the Test My Code plugin.

I believe Netbeans is the preferred IDE for the mooc. There is a plugin for IntelliJ, but I've heard mixed reviews.

> For the most part, Eclipse has fallen into obscurity.

I guess it depends on the locale/company/environment?

In most conferences, online videos, as well as among the people I know personally, JetBrains IDEs (IntelliJ IDEA for Java) seem to reign supreme: https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

They have a community version, personally I pay for the Ultimate package of all the tools. They're slightly sluggish, want a lot of RAM, but the actual development experience and features make up for that.

I know that Eclipse is sometimes used more in an educational setting, however there are also both some specialized tools, as well as customized versions for something like working with Spring in the industry: https://spring.io/tools

In my experience, the idea behind the IDE is nice (a platform that you can install whatever you want on, entire language support packages, or specialized tool packages), but the execution falls short - sometimes it's unstable, other times it works slow and so on. That said, it's passable.

I would say that personally I'd almost prefer NetBeans to Eclipse, even after it was given over to the Apache Foundation, which have released a few versions since: https://netbeans.apache.org/

It seems to do less than either Eclipse or IntelliJ IDEA do, but for general purpose Java editing and limited work with other stacks (PHP, webdev stuff, some C/C++) it is good and pleasant to use. However, if you have projects that get close to half a million lines of code, it does just kind of break and gets way slower than the alternatives. It still somehow feels more coherent than Eclipse to me, would pick it if IntelliJ IDEA didn't exist.

Some also try doing something like using Visual Studio Code with a Java plugin: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/java

That said, I only used that briefly when I needed something lightweight for a netbook of mine, the experience was somewhat underwhelming. The autocomplete or refactoring wasn't as good as IntelliJ IDEA and just felt a little bit tacked on. Then again, that was a while ago, I don't doubt that progress is being made.

(free) Apache NetBeans is there from ages, and one person on my team still uses it for PHP/web stuff (including the use of xdebug with it) because you know, it works. Some of us care about *what* gets into the repository, not *how* it gets done, as long you're productive.

Existem outras IDEs igualmente famosas: Eclipse IDE e NetBeans.

1. NetBeans

Nobody mentioned (wonder why), but 10 years ago I used work in NetBeans. I thought it was fantastic and I can see it is still being developed.

Another small, minimalist Lua-based text editor is Lite[1], and it's much less "light" cousin Lite-XL[2]

1: https://github.com/rxi/lite

2: https://github.com/lite-xl/lite-xl

Playing with browser developer tools and always seeing obfuscated JavaScript makes me sad. I'm not a web developer, but I suspect the security gained is low enough to fall within the author's "unnecessary constraints."

On the other hand, there are projects like https://github.com/rxi/lite

Beyond the rendering which as noted is nothing that hasn't been done before (in general) the inherent OT/multi user + tree sitter functionality is something that entices me.

I'm surprised nobody pointed out lite/litexl here either it's rendering of ui is very similar (although fonts are via a texture; like a game would) and doesn't focus overly on the GPU but optimises those paths like games circa directx9/opengl 1.3

https://github.com/rxi/lite/blob/master/src/renderer.h

> is using pure software rendering (on top of SDL) in a rather naïve fashion

https://github.com/rxi/lite/blob/master/src/rencache.c#L4

I think you'll find that they found the naive approach was sufficiently poor, performance wise, that additional optimizations had to be applied on-top.

> But for quick hacking / porting old demos / writing emulators and also text based UI it can be fast enough.

/shrug

If you want to use it, use it. It's 'good enough'...

> if you vastly lower your expectations

How about lite https://github.com/rxi/lite

You have options: - Sublime Text - VsCodium - Lite - https://github.com/rxi/lite

I like the single lapce.exe and loads reasonably fast.

But this is in a pre pre-alpha stage, so many bugs it's far too early for public feedback. It loads reasonably fast except chrome stats in top left then jerks towards the center. The start page says to bring up the command palette which I was unable to navigate via keyboard.

The open file dialog takes an eternity to load the first time, the path is in a text box that's not editable. Focusing a text file gives an Insert cursor which is in text mode, there's a noticable slow delay before writing the first character, text selection is non existent so lacks basic text editing features.

There is a built-in terminal however there's only a single tab.

The only thing that gives it potential is that the folder/file browsing is super quick even with a node_modules folder so it might be built on efficient rendering that can be improved.

Even for such a basic editor it's 38mb download. For a far smaller + more complete editor checkout Lite:

https://github.com/rxi/lite