neon VS ObjectBox Java (Kotlin, Android)

Such is the case with Neon, a serverless Postgres service, that went generally available on April 15. Congrats Nikita Shamgunov and team on the launch. When I saw the announcement, I knew I had to try it out for myself and report back with my findings.

I want to use this as a chance to bring attention to a GitHub issue that I think would help reduce friction for Neon:

https://github.com/neondatabase/neon/issues/4989

If the Neon driver were to allow us to easily pass in a localhost connection, the development and test experience would be easier. Perhaps Neon could swap to something like this internally: https://github.com/porsager/postgres.

Having run a local dev environment connected to Neon and tests connected to Neon got in our way of adoption. We'd prefer to develop and run tests against a regular Postgres localhost database.

To the PMs of Neon, put yourself in the shoes of a new developer thinking of giving Neon a try. What changes will I have to make to my code and my development workflow?

Neon is an open source and cloud-native serverless database platform that focuses on simplicity and ease of use. It supports Postgres databases and offers built-in features like bottomless storage, autoscaling, and branching.

For MySQL, we've got PlanetScale, and for PostgreSQL, there's Neon.

8. https://neon.tech/As you might know not one tool fits all, I still have strong preferences for the following. It helps me get going faster and get things done right first time and helps in ease of maintenance.

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Migrated away when they removed the free tier, ended up using https://neon.tech/

Cool! At Neon[0], I work full time on our custom postgres proxy[1]. It's a very nice protocol to work with, although our usecase is quite a bit more complex compared to the ideas presented in the post.

Neon databases scale to zero, so the proxy needs to spin up databases on the fly. The proxy doesn't do that but it knows if the databases is running and asks our control plane to schedule it if it isn't. It's a fun service to maintain.

The biggest pain is error handling. Postgres is really bad for error messages and codes. The only available code we can use is usually protocol violation...

[0]: https://neon.tech/

Neon - PostgreSQL

For those looking for alternatives check out https://neon.tech/, https://turso.tech/ and https://developers.cloudflare.com/d1/.

When I first attempted to publish to F-Droid, I experienced several pipeline issues. After reading through the pipeline logs in GitLab, I realized that my application's database (ObjectBox) was not entirely FOSS compliant and was causing build failures. The following day was spent migrating my app to Room.

I would focus on Kotlin instead of Java, there's really no point in sticking to Java at this point. And when it comes to databases, some local ones that are pretty easy to get into are Realm and ObjectBox, SQLite can definitely be a bit overwhelming at the beginning.

Not sure what exactly the issue is in your case, but linux-aarch64 is already a supported platform for ObjectBox (with some dependencies on libc versions etc). Maybe raise an issue for https://github.com/objectbox/objectbox-java with your specific error output and some details on your setup?

Just to add to this, there's also Realm and ObjectBox as alternatives.

Adding ObjectBox [0] to the list.

[0] https://objectbox.io/

Obectbox

While - strictly speaking - "database" refers to a systematic collection of data, "Database Management System'', or DBMS, refers to the piece of software that provides an efficient and versatile method of working with data(eg: ObjectBox). However, often the term "database" is also used loosely to refer to a DBMS, and you will find most DBMS only use the term database in their name and communication.

Maybe this? I've been looking at it recently.

https://github.com/objectbox/objectbox-java is an alternative to Room.

Here's the issue