neo VS Mithril.js

I'm hoping maybe the guy behind Neo.js and the Vue team can collab to put out an even faster framework that does more with the canvas as opposed to direct dom manipulations. As far as I can tell webGPU & wasm will reshape how things are done in the frontend and it may make sense to just render everything inside of a canvas.

Support for sockets is in there: https://github.com/neomjs/neo/blob/dev/src/data/connection/WebSocket.mjs

Another: https://github.com/neomjs/neo

The idea of nested function calls to build HTML is not new. Back in the hey-day of JS frameworks, this was a common vdom pattern. I kinda miss [MithrilJS](https://mithril.js.org/#dom-elements)

I have mixed feelings about React. I like it better than jQuery, and better than other JS frameworks I’ve used.

But I much prefer Mithril (https://mithril.js.org/), which offers the same immediate-mode advantages (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19746235) but without the crazy complex dependency-tracking reactivity.

I rather liked this comment on React: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38640051

Vue with Vite (the builder/runner) is a stable, open source option. It is really a lightweight start where you're mostly writing HTML with interpolated data, and Vue is updating values correctly and performantly. Just build your reactive HTML app in one file and break into separate components as you're feeling the spirit. https://vuejs.org/guide/quick-start

Mithril if you just want to drop in want a tiny, complete reactive library that doesn't require a build step--this one is most like what you might end up creating in a large jQuery app. You can understand everything from the homepage. https://mithril.js.org/

HTMX if you really like HTML conventions. This doesn't feel jQuery-like and depends on your approach to your server app. https://htmx.org/

React is still has gratuitous complexity. If you need some React like, take a look at mithril which is simpler and much smaller.

The submitter creating multiple var -> let PRs (one PR per file), was also doing this in other projects, and would've broken some of their users.

https://github.com/MithrilJS/mithril.js/pull/2880#pullreques...

And he created multiple PRs there too. And didn't follow their workflow...

On the other hand, if your app does need to update live but you want to keep things a bit closer to the metal than React, I highly recommend Mithril. It is a great everything-you-need-nothing-you-don't framework with a similar design philosophy to React but a much smaller and easier to learn API. I think Preact falls into a similar category though I have not used it personally.