multiversion-concurrency-contro VS ponyc

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

And I implemented a 3 way text diff with myers algorithm based on https://blog.jcoglan.com/2017/02/12/the-myers-diff-algorithm...

https://github.com/samsquire/text-diff

I implemented an eventually consistent mesh protocol that uses timestamps to provide last write wins

I think I lean towards per-thread sharding instead of mutex based or lock free data structures except for lockfree ringbuffers.

You can get embarassingly parallel performance if you split your data by thread and aggregate periodically.

If you need a consistent view of your entire set of data, that is slow path with sharding.

In my experiments with multithreaded software I simulate a bank where many bankaccounts are randomly withdrawn from and deposited to. https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

I get 700 million requests per second due to the sharding of money over accounts.

If you want some sample code to implement MVCC, I implemented MVCC in multithreaded Java as a toy example

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

First read TransactionC.java then read MVCC.java

I wrote an unrolled switch statement in Java to simulate eager async/await across treads.

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

The goal is that a compiler should generate this for you. This code is equivalent to the following:

   task1:

https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ch16-00-concurrency.html

I've been working on implementing Java async/await state machine with switch statements and a scheduling loop. If the user doesn't await the async task handle, then the task's returnvalue is never handled. This is similar to the Go problem with the go statement.

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

If your async call returns a handle and

yield value2++

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

I am still working on allowing multiple coroutines to be in flight in parallel at the same time. At the moment the tasks share the same background thread.

I asked this stackoverflow question regarding C++ coroutines, as I wanted to use coroutines with a thread pool.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74520133/how-can-i-pass-...

This is very interesting. Thank you for submitting this and thank you for working on this.

I am highly interested in parallelism and high concurrency. I implemented multiversion concurrency control in Java.

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

I am curious how to handle replication with high concurrency. I'm not sure how you detect dangerous reads+writes to the same key (tuples/fields) across different replica machines. In other words, multiple master.

I am aware Google uses truetime and some form of timestamp ordering and detection of interfering timestamps. But I'm not sure how to replicate that.

I began working on an algorithm to synchronize database records, do a sort, then a hash for each row where hash(row) = hash(previous_row.hash + row.data)

Then do a binary search on hashes matching/not matching. This is a synchronization algorithm I'm designing that requires minimal data transfer but multiple round trips.

The binary search would check the end of the data set for hash(replica_a.row[last]) == hash(replica_b.row[last]) then split the hash list in half and check the middle item, this shall tell you which row and which columns are different.

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

I want to redesign the architecture of the async/await to be easier to understand. I want to use a state machine somehow.

I wrote an unrolled state machine for my async/await in Java. This models a simple async/await program and runs tasks on other threads - without locks. I use a design I call token ring parallelism, where threads take turns and are linked together in a ring structure.

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

I wrote a own lock free algorithm here that I use to do message passing between actor threads. My goal is high throughput performance and low latency.

https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

With 11 threads (on a 12 core processor, deliberately left one core for Windows)

I then started writing a parser for a high level language and then code generation from the AST to the imaginary assembly. My interpreter is multithreaded and can send integers between interpreters. It is very early and doesn't do much.

Code is at https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

The high level language looks similar to Javascript except I tried to parse everything as an expression. I need to parse functions as expressions.

I was experimenting with Protothreads in C recently to try understand how it worked and I wrote a giant switch statement and a while loop in Java to simulate async/await. It would be interesting to do codegen for coroutines.

here's that giant switch statement and scheduler https://github.com/samsquire/multiversion-concurrency-contro...

One idea for a stackless design I had was to preallocate memory for each method call for a call to that function and avoid a stack altogether. This would allow coroutines between methods and avoid the function colour problem because everything is a coroutine.

Is there any communities for programming language developers? Where do all the language developers meet up and talk theory and implementation? I am on eatonphil's discord and we talk there.

One problem I am trying to understand how to solve is how you would write a multithreaded interpreter and language that allowed parallel interpretation similar to C# and Java. If the allocator is thread safe and you share an object pool between interpreters and you hash object equality by sourcecode, then you could send objects between threads with only a synchronization cost.

I believe Python has the problem that object identity is different in each subinterpreter so you need to marshall the data.

For example, the actor's model is not used by a lot of languages, Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/) and Elixir are the only ones that I know, but they address the concurrency problem quite well, while it's a pain to deal with in other languages at large scale.

And that last point is critical. If the language flatly can't represent some concepts it uses, they have to be implemented somewhere else. I had a similar discussion with a proponent for Pony once- the language itself is 100% safe, and fully dependent on C for its runtime and data structures. One of Rust's core strengths is being able to express unsafe concepts, meaning the unsafe code can expose a safe interface that accurately describes its requirements rather than an opaque C ABI. Vale doesn't seem to do that.

"Exterior iteration. Iteration used to be by stack / non-escaping coroutines, which we also called "interior" iteration, as opposed to "exterior" iteration by pointer-like things that live in variables you advance. Such coroutines are now finally supported by LLVM (they weren't at the time) and are actually a fairly old and reliable mechanism for a linking-friendly, not-having-to-inline-tons-of-library-code abstraction for iteration. They're in, like, BLISS and Modula-2 and such. Really normal thing to have, early Rust had them, and they got ripped out for a bunch of reasons that, again, mostly just form "an argument I lost" rather than anything I disagree with today. I wish Rust still had them. Maybe someday it will!"

I remember that one. The change was shortly after I started fooling with Rust and was major. Major as in it broke all the code that I'd written to that point.

"Async/await. I wanted a standard green-thread runtime with growable stacks -- essentially just "coroutines that escape, when you need them too"."

I remember that one, too; it was one of the things that drew me to the language---I was imagining something more like Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/).

"The Rust I Wanted probably had no future, or at least not one anywhere near as good as The Rust We Got."

Almost certainly true. But The Rust We Got is A Better C++, which was never appealing to me because I never liked C++ anyway.

Pony or bust.

If you have a value in mutable storage, and want to treat it as an immutable parameter without copying it first, you will need to provide some way to guarantee that it won't be mutated while being treated as immutable! There doesn't seem to be a definitive best way to do that (although the likes of Pony make a try at it).

The love child of Erlang and Rust exists already: Pony.

https://www.ponylang.io

It really is the best of both languages... unfortunately, the main supporter of Pony seems to have stopped using it in favour of Rust though :D.

But if that's really what you want, Pony is your language. It definitely deserves more love.

You can actually try to have a magic language which "does not ignore decades of PL research" but you are likely to get either something broken or a project that is likely not going to release in our lifetime.

Never a bad time to plug Pony lang[1] - a safety-oriented actor-model language. In addition to the numerous safety guarantees, you also get a beautiful syntax and automatic memory management. Really a great language that often gets overshadowed by Rust's hype-turfing.

[1]: https://www.ponylang.io/