mjml-react VS liv

Unfortunately, the react-mjml library is no longer maintained: https://github.com/wix-incubator/mjml-react#notice-this-proj...

Mailing is a new tool based on React components to create templates. Under the hood, it uses mjml-react. A package, that is porting mjml markup language into React component. Thanks to this, we can use render e-mail templates using React.

Agreed that MJML is great, but I wouldn't call JSX a useless abstraction. Using JSX as a templating language for MJML has real benefits, like being able to use javascript directly in templates instead of having to remember handlebars/mustache/nunjucks/etc templating syntax.

And libraries like mjml-react make it really easy.

https://github.com/wix-incubator/mjml-react/

I will say that it sucks just as a much from the developer front. I had to build some email templates for a project a few weeks ago and I was shocked how wired it was compared to regular webdev.

Using a framework is almost a requirement if you don't want to spend all your time on little differences between email clients. The layout is really wired too, with the recommendation to use a ton of nested tables. Not to mention wired bugs like Apple Mail not rendering a background unless you have an image on the page.

The best solution I've found thus far is to use MJML React [1]. This sorta normalizes things and lets you write normal react code that gets transpiled into some abomination that Outlook can read. But it sucks that the only two options that are actually worth a damn seem to be MJML[2] and Foundation[3]. If anyone has had good experiences with other frameworks I'm very much open to suggestions.

[1]: https://github.com/wix-incubator/mjml-react

[2]: https://mjml.io/

[3]: https://get.foundation/emails.html

For email, mjml is the way to go in my opinion. There is this package that lets you use it with react, I've used it on several projects and it worked very well https://github.com/wix-incubator/mjml-react

There is actually a react integration so you don't have to use their template language https://github.com/wix-incubator/mjml-react

That's why you need to write your own email client, or help me to polish mine:

https://github.com/derek-zhou/liv

As someone who run my own email server, I obviously disagree. Three things come to my mind:

First, SPAM filter is way overrated. I have next to zero SPAM filter, and am doing just fine. Yes, I got lots of SPAMs, but the volume of real SPAMs is dwarfed by the volume of ads that would pass through SPAM filters anyway, so why bother.

Second, yes, open source webmail is lacking, that's why I wrote mine: https://github.com/derek-zhou/liv

Lastly, the biggest pain I have is sending email to big providers such as gmail. I have everything setup correctly, DMARC, SPF, you name it. And my server is not on any block list that I can find, and yet they put my emails in the SPAM folder from time to time. In the name of fighting SPAM, they are sabotaging the original internet experience for everyone.

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