mirrord VS garden

So, you've been using mirrord to simplify your development process (if you haven’t, go here!). Naturally, you want the traffic from the app you're debugging to go through the cluster environment, so your app can communicate with its clustery pals. There is a problem though: your latest change adds some new columns to the database, and you don’t want to modify the database in the cluster and affect everyone else working on it. You do have a local instance of the database that you can modify, so your app can use that, but you still want it to talk to all the other components in the cluster. So what now? The new outgoing traffic filter feature is here to solve exactly this type of problem!

I had the pleasure of talking to Eyal @ CTO at Metalbear and the maintainer of Mirrord. I got some crazy insights.

If you want to take mirrord for a spin, check out the quick start guide. We’d love to hear about your experience or just general thoughts - chat us up on our Discord or open an issue or discussion on GitHub.

We're building an open-source tool called mirrord which lets you run a local process in the context of a pod in your cloud environment. We often get asked how mirrord is different from Telepresence and so we decided to write a short blog post about it, which we hope would be valuable to those interested in local Kubernetes development:

Hands-on tutorial of mirrord.dev with the creators and Rawkode!

if you are interested in k8s, iptables, hooking libc, asm etc https://github.com/metalbear-co/mirrord

I gave my first CNCF talk in Toronto yesterday, talking about https://github.com/metalbear-co/mirrord , how all the features work, and how it's engineered!

Hey there! Have you tried garden.io for caching? We also cache tests. Pretty much anything that's possible to cache. We're open source at https://github.com/garden-io/garden

To add to what's already been said: If you think about it, CI pipelines are typically a complete description of how your system is built, tested, and deployed.

Which is pretty fantastic except for how walled off they are. You can't really re-use these descriptions for e.g. development, they're not vendor agnostic, and they only way to run them is by pushing your code.

Maybe it's a silly analogy but it's almost like being a web dev that doesn't have a browser and needs to send their code to a friend who can tell them if that font size looks good.

I think we're way over due for freeing these "blueprints" of our system from the confines of CI and making them portable and flexible. And containers are the technology that's enabling that.

Full disclaimer (as always): I work at Garden[0] where we're also solving that problem but taking a slightly different approach to Dagger (it's still a DAG). Garden config is declarative and the jobs (we call them actions) have a semantic meaning. You can e.g. have a Build action of type container or a Deploy action of type Helm and Garden will figure out what to do with it.

[0] https://github.com/garden-io/garden

Yes, there's us over at https://github.com/garden-io/garden! We're big believers in pipelines that run anywhere. I even made a short little video that should give you the gist. [1]

Some of the short-list of differences: we use YAML for our configuration language, Dagger can use full-fat languages to define its pipelines. Our feature scope is broader: you can use us to vend IDP-like stacks to your developers if you're a Platform Team; we make development with remote Kubernetes clusters very easy, including all the remote image builds; and we have a number of integrations so you can bring your IaC tool of choice (Pulumi, Terraform) into your pipeline and set up service -> infra dependencies.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFnan6s2cDg

Me too. In fact Garden (dev tooling for the Kubernetes)[0] is a Berlin start-up with three Icelandic founders.

And if I'm not mistaken, two of us worked briefly with @halldorel (above commenter) at an earlier Icelandic start-up. It's a small world (if you're Icelandic).

[0] https://garden.io

There are dedicated tools just for that. Apart from skaffold check also tilt.dev, garden.io, devspace.sh, okteto.com

Would appreciate any insights on garden.io. Thanks.

Telepresence, tilt, garden.io, okteto, skaffold etc.

- https://garden.io/

haha, do my pictures give off a strong not-web-dev vibe? Either way your right, I'm focusing on devxp and automation for kubernetes. Because my work is open source you can see it here https://github.com/garden-io/garden (btw we're also hiring another open core dev like me)