minisketch VS t-digest

Compare minisketch vs t-digest and see what are their differences.

minisketch

Minisketch: an optimized library for BCH-based set reconciliation (by sipa)

t-digest

A new data structure for accurate on-line accumulation of rank-based statistics such as quantiles and trimmed means (by tdunning)
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minisketch

Posts with mentions or reviews of minisketch. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-11-20.
  • Invertible Bloom Lookup Tables with Less Randomness and Memory
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Jul 2023
    Anyone interested in IBLT with low failure probablity should also be aware of pinsketch and, particularly, our implementation of it: minisketch ( https://github.com/sipa/minisketch/ ).

    Our implementation communicates a difference of N b-bit entries with exactly N*b bits with 100% success. The cost for this communications efficiency and reliability is that the decoder takes CPU time quadratic in N, instead of IBLT's linear decoder. However, when N is usually small, if the implementation is fast this can be fine -- especially since you wouldn't normally want to use set recon unless you were communications limited.

    Pinsketches and iblt can also be combined-- one can use pinsketches as the cells of an iblt and one can also use a small pinsketch to improve the failure rate of an iblt (since when a correctly sized IBLT fails, it's usually just due to a single undecodable cycle).

  • Minisketch: an optimized library for BCH-based set reconciliation
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Mar 2023
  • Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging
    11 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Nov 2022
    Since the protocol appears to use adhoc synchronization, the authors might be interested in https://github.com/sipa/minisketch/ which is a library that implements a data structure (pinsketch) that allows two parties to synchronize their sets of m b-bit elements which differ by c entries using only b*c bits. A naive protocol would use m*b bits instead, which is potentially much larger.

    I'd guess that under normal usage the message densities probably don't justify such efficient means-- we developed this library for use in bitcoin targeting rates on the order of a dozen new messages per second and where every participant has many peers with potentially differing sets--, but it's still probably worth being aware of. The pinsketch is always equal or more efficient than a naive approach, but may not be worth the complexity.

    The somewhat better known IBLT data structure has constant overheads that make it less efficient than even naive synchronization until the set differences are fairly large (particular when the element hashes are small); so some applications that evaluated and eschewed IBLT might find pinsketch applicable.

  • Ask HN: What are some 'cool' but obscure data structures you know about?
    54 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Jul 2022
    I love the set reconciliation structures like the IBLT (Iterative Bloom Lookup Table) and BCH set digests like minisketch.

    https://github.com/sipa/minisketch

    Lets say you have a set of a billion items. Someone else has mostly the same set but they differ by 10 items. These let you exchange messages that would fit in one UDP packet to reconcile the sets.

  • Here is how Ethereum COULD scale without increasing centralisation and without depending on layer two's.
    2 projects | /r/CryptoTechnology | 27 Jan 2022
    Sipa is working on a better version of that for a while. The technical term is a "set reconciliation protocol", but Bitcoin Core been doing a more basic version of this for a while. Note that the "BCH" there isn't the same as Bcash
  • ish: Sketches for Zig
    3 projects | /r/Zig | 18 Dec 2021
    I'd also have to say that Zig is a pretty neat library for this. In order to implement PBS I needed the MiniSketch-library (written in C/C++) and I'll have to say that integrating with it has been a breeze. Some fiddling in build.zig so that I can avoid Makefile, and after that everything has worked amazingly.
  • The Pinecone Overlay Network
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 May 2021
    Networks that need to constrain themselves to limited typologies to avoid traffic magnification do so at the expense of robustness, especially against active attackers that grind their identifiers to gain privileged positions.

    Maybe this is a space where efficient reconciliation ( https://github.com/sipa/minisketch/ ) could help-- certainly if the goal were to flood messages to participants reconciliation can give almost optimal communication without compromising robustness.

  • Is it any easier to find A, B such that sha256(A) ^ sha256(B) = sha256(C)?
    1 project | /r/crypto | 19 Jan 2021

t-digest

Posts with mentions or reviews of t-digest. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-07-21.
  • Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Feb 2023
    > I get a lot of benefit from this information but somehow it feels shallow.

    I take a longer view to this. For example, a few years ago I read about an algorithm to calculate percentiles in real time. [0]

    It literally just came up at work today. I haven't used that information but maybe two times since I read it, but it was super relevant today and saved my team potential weeks of development.

    So maybe it's not so shallow.

    But to your actual question, I have a similar problem. The best I can say is that deadlines help. I usually put down the HN and Youtube when I have a deadline coming up. And not just at work. I make sure my hobbies have deadlines too.

    I tell people when I think something will be done, so they start bugging me about it when it doesn't get done, so that I have a "deadline". Also one of my hobbies is pixel light shows for holidays, which come with excellent natural deadlines -- it has to be done by the holiday or it's useless.

    So either find an "accountability buddy" who will hold you to your self imposed deadlines, or find a hobby that has natural deadlines, like certain calendar dates, or annual conventions or contests that you need to be done by.

    [0] https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest

  • Ask HN: What are some 'cool' but obscure data structures you know about?
    54 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Jul 2022
    I am enamored by data structures in the sketch/summary/probabilistic family: t-digest[1], q-digest[2], count-min sketch[3], matrix-sketch[4], graph-sketch[5][6], Misra-Gries sketch[7], top-k/spacesaving sketch[8], &c.

    What I like about them is that they give me a set of engineering tradeoffs that I typically don't have access to: accuracy-speed[9] or accuracy-space. There have been too many times that I've had to say, "I wish I could do this, but it would take too much time/space to compute." Most of these problems still work even if the accuracy is not 100%. And furthermore, many (if not all of these) can tune accuracy to by parameter adjustment anyways. They tend to have favorable combinatorial properties ie: they form monoids or semigroups under merge operations. In short, a property of data structures that gave me the ability to solve problems I couldn't before.

    I hope they are as useful or intriguing to you as they are to me.

    1. https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest

    2. https://pdsa.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rank/qdigest.html

    3. https://florian.github.io/count-min-sketch/

    4. https://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/el327/papers/simpleMatrixSketc...

    5. https://www.juanlopes.net/poly18/poly18-juan-lopes.pdf

    6. https://courses.engr.illinois.edu/cs498abd/fa2020/slides/20-...

    7. https://people.csail.mit.edu/rrw/6.045-2017/encalgs-mg.pdf

    8. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00200...

    9. It may better be described as error-speed and error-space, but I've avoided the term error because the term for programming audiences typically evokes the idea of logic errors and what I mean is statistical error.

  • Monarch: Google’s Planet-Scale In-Memory Time Series Database
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 May 2022
    Ah, I misunderstood what you meant. If you are reporting static buckets I get how that is better than what folks typically do but how do you know the buckets a priori? Others back their histograms with things like https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest. It is pretty powerful as the buckets are dynamic based on the data and histograms can be added together.
  • [Q] Estimator for pop median
    1 project | /r/statistics | 16 Sep 2021
    Yes, but if you need to estimate median on the fly (e.g., over a stream of data) or in parallel there are better ways.
  • How percentile approximation works (and why it's more useful than averages)
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Sep 2021
    There are some newer data structures that take this to the next level such as T-Digest[1], which remains extremely accurate even when determining percentiles at the very tail end (like 99.999%)

    [1]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.04023.pdf / https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest

  • Reducing fireflies in path tracing
    1 project | /r/GraphicsProgramming | 3 Aug 2021
    [2] https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest
  • Reliable, Scalable, and Maintainable Applications
    1 project | dev.to | 8 Apr 2021
    T-Digest
  • Show HN: Fast Rolling Quantiles for Python
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Mar 2021
    This is pretty cool. The title would be a bit more descriptive if it were “Fast Rolling Quantile Filters for Python”, since the high-pass/low-pass filter functionality seems to be the focus.

    The README mentions it uses binary heaps - if you’re willing to accept some (bounded) approximation, then it should be possible to reduce memory usage and somewhat reduce runtime by using a sketching data structure like Dunning’s t-digest: https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest/blob/main/docs/t-digest....

    There is an open source Python implementation, although I haven’t used it and can’t vouch for its quality: https://github.com/CamDavidsonPilon/tdigest

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