mgmt VS os

This is a new provisioning tool built with https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ that I hope both provides great value and also demonstrates the start of a new way to build certain kinds of software.

Thanks for reading!

I've looked briefly into this project before. Some ideas are similar to what I'm doing in https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ but the really weird thing is that I have no idea who's behind this language. A person? A company? A small group? Are they anonymous for some reason or am I oblivious?

I don't generally believe in orchestrators (they miss the point, things are not single computers and neither is the world) and so I have that feedback here but also for:

> Airflow/Cadence/Temporal/Databuilderframework?

Which don't really think about modelling non-centralized things.

This of course doesn't mean they're not useful, it's just that they don't have what I believe is a good long-term value proposition.

I'm incredibly biased because I'm working on programmatic, real-time modelling of distributed systems with https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

The DAG concurrency stuff feels familiar to what I've been doing with our language, mcl. https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

Our goal is NOT a general-purpose turing-complete language like this one is, but we do some amazing lock-free, DAG concurrency things to achieve the processing wins.

I don't think it's good news, but why is anyone surprised? Nobody wants to pay for open source.

Companies want it for free, and individuals don't have enough luxury time to be able to do it themselves.

Prove me wrong and help patch or fund https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ and you'll have an even better replacement for terraform!

Individual here, not a company. We'd love contributors to https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

Eventually decided puppet wasn't a good enough tool to be able to autonomously deploy and continuously manage such clusters. So I started working on this https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ project. Not quite MVP yet, but trying to get there soon. Got distracted along the way with having to work real jobs (Red Hat, Amazon) to pay bills.

Yeah, that project is pretty much at the bottom of my list, unfortunately. My top projects these days are mgmt, klister, recursion-schemes, and hint... And that's already too much!

There are certainly faster alternatives out there (mgmt comes to mind) but then, they're not Ansible.

And in the end we got a screenshot of a kernel-dump when we moved some nodes to VMs, which led us to this

I wonder if that's a job for rancherOS since everything in rancherOS is a docker container, https://rancher.com/docs/os/v1.x/en/ . Or is there some better compact OS?

The closest I can think of is the docker. If OP likes docker in their docker then they can start with RancherOS.

RancherOS 2.0.0 alpha01 was out 2 days ago : https://github.com/rancher/os/releases/tag/v2.0.0-alpha01

Was it RancherOS?

> RancherOS is the smallest, easiest way to run Docker in production. Every process in RancherOS is a container managed by Docker. This includes system services such as udev and syslog. Because it only includes the services necessary to run Docker, RancherOS is significantly smaller than most traditional operating systems.

https://rancher.com/docs/os/v1.x/en/

The nodes are thus totally neutral now. As a result, their templates are greatly simplified, and they can now easily be managed in an immutable way. This new paradigm opened the way to new Operating Systems specialized for container orchestration, such as CoreOS or RancherOS, whose life cycles are meant to be managed with an immutable workflow.

For this example, I'll be using a VPS on DigitalOcean running RancherOS with 2 CPUs and 2GB RAM. RancherOS a lightweight OS designed for hosting containers. If you'd prefer to use another distribution, you'll need to make sure Docker Engine is installed. Instructions for installing Docker Engine can be found in the Docker documentation. Any cloud provider will work just fine but I'd suggest the specs above as minimums.

Edit: here’s a link : https://github.com/rancher/os/issues/3000

When you say RancherOS do you mean "using Rancher" or do you also mean using RancherOS for your k8s nodes?