mgmt VS endoflife.date

This is a new provisioning tool built with https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ that I hope both provides great value and also demonstrates the start of a new way to build certain kinds of software.

Thanks for reading!

I've looked briefly into this project before. Some ideas are similar to what I'm doing in https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ but the really weird thing is that I have no idea who's behind this language. A person? A company? A small group? Are they anonymous for some reason or am I oblivious?

I don't generally believe in orchestrators (they miss the point, things are not single computers and neither is the world) and so I have that feedback here but also for:

> Airflow/Cadence/Temporal/Databuilderframework?

Which don't really think about modelling non-centralized things.

This of course doesn't mean they're not useful, it's just that they don't have what I believe is a good long-term value proposition.

I'm incredibly biased because I'm working on programmatic, real-time modelling of distributed systems with https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

The DAG concurrency stuff feels familiar to what I've been doing with our language, mcl. https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

Our goal is NOT a general-purpose turing-complete language like this one is, but we do some amazing lock-free, DAG concurrency things to achieve the processing wins.

I don't think it's good news, but why is anyone surprised? Nobody wants to pay for open source.

Companies want it for free, and individuals don't have enough luxury time to be able to do it themselves.

Prove me wrong and help patch or fund https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ and you'll have an even better replacement for terraform!

Individual here, not a company. We'd love contributors to https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

Eventually decided puppet wasn't a good enough tool to be able to autonomously deploy and continuously manage such clusters. So I started working on this https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ project. Not quite MVP yet, but trying to get there soon. Got distracted along the way with having to work real jobs (Red Hat, Amazon) to pay bills.

Yeah, that project is pretty much at the bottom of my list, unfortunately. My top projects these days are mgmt, klister, recursion-schemes, and hint... And that's already too much!

There are certainly faster alternatives out there (mgmt comes to mind) but then, they're not Ansible.

> where you can see overlapped timelines when support ended

I tried to generate a visual timeline for a given page (https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/2859, has some screenshots), but it was limited to a single page (so you'd only see nokia devices at once for eg).

It turned out that it is too hard to generate clear charts with vague data. We often only know whether is device is supported or not (true/false, see comments about samsung below in this thread), and don't have clear release dates.

I'll get to it someday (PRs welcome), but it might not work for the usecase we want (picking phones) because data on mobiles is very vague.

repairability score -> sounds interesting, will file an issue and see. The hard part is that there's no clear identifiers for devices (SWID/CPE are just not good enough) for us to track this kind of data from elsewhere easily.

Here's the PR where it was added by a user, "Based on a Rails core team member's comment"...

A lot of the communications regarding End of Life for Support is done very effectively here: https://endoflife.date/

https://endoflife.date (not mine)

a little similar to endoflife.date if anyone has ever come across it for Software versions?

We do this at https://endoflife.date API, and it works quite well.

I've created the `db.json` with the [end of life](https://endoflife.date/) api.

Something I've recently worked on is building an SQLite database of all the dependencies my organisation uses, which makes it possible to write our own queries and reports. The tool is all Open Source (https://dmd.tanna.dev) and has a CLI as well as the SQLite data.

Ive used it to look for software that's out of date (via https://endoflife.date), to find vulnerablilities (via https://osv.dev) and get license information (via https://deps.dev)

It's been hugely useful for us understanding use of internal and external dependencies, and I wish I'd built it earlier in my career so I could've had it for other companies I've worked at!

This is neat: https://endoflife.date/

I'm looking for a 3rd party vendor that can do the mindlessly tedious work of maintaining a library of software support dates. Think hundreds of thousands/millions of versions of software in an enterprise with ridiculous tech debt. Something like endoflife.date but much more far encompassing.