Mermaid VS java

I'm not OP, but I just ask GPT to turn code or process or whatever else into a mermaid diagram. Most of the time I don't even need to few-shot prompt it with examples. Then you dump the resulting text into something like https://mermaid.live/ and voilà.

I like excalidraw for live discussions but if I want to make more detailed or better looking diagrams, I really enjoy these two tools:

- For drag-and-drop/WYSIWYG, I really like DrawIO. They have a web version https://app.diagrams.net/ but I strongly recommend the desktop version https://github.com/jgraph/drawio-desktop/releases/

- For text-as-diagram, I think Mermaid wins this by default since GitHub added markdown support for these: https://mermaid.live/ (This was github's announcement https://github.blog/2022-02-14-include-diagrams-markdown-fil... )

You can export to PNG and other formats in the Mermaid editor https://mermaid.live/

with a fancier image for the customer than a box. Try it out at https://mermaid.live (linked from https://mermaid.js.org/)

Or this one, from a service I worked on a couple of years ago:

    sequenceDiagram

ditto, it's very impressive with all types of mermaid [0] diagrams! even helps w/ styling and formatting tweaks. It's helped me so much with better 'coverage' and maintainability on diagrams for projects I'm working on.

0. https://mermaid.live/

You can ask it for mermaid code. I just had it generate the following two diagrams, you can input the code into https://mermaid.live to check them out.

Structurizr is used for describing and visualizing architecture using the C4 model. One of the main selling points is the fact you can define an entire (IT) architecture model using text. A typical model consists of:

I've been using https://structurizr.com/ to automatically generate C4 diagrams from a model (rather than drawing them by hand). It works well with the approach for written documentation as proposed in https://arc42.org/. It's very easy to embed a C4 diagram into a markdown document.

The result is a set of documents and diagrams under version control that can be rendered using the structurizr documentation server (for interactive diagrams and indexed search).

I also use https://d2lang.com/ for declarative diagrams in addition to C4, e.g., sequence diagrams and https://adr.github.io/ for architectural decision records. These are also well integrated into structurizr.

Structurizr, available at https://structurizr.com/ and also has a free plan available with a single workspace available, is a tool that allows you to build out a C4 model using its Structurizr DSL to outline the Containers, Components, and Contexts of the architecture. It is a valuable tool for designing and visualizing a software architecture. In this example we'll build out a simple Machine Learning Pipeline, I mean a very basic one, featuring an ETL Pipeline and a model that trains images that classifies it as a image of planet earth or not. To begin, lets define our work space.

Structurizr builds upon "diagrams as code", allowing you to create multiple diagrams from a single model using a number of tools and programming languages.

- https://structurizr.com/ (by Simon Brown, the creator of the C4 model)

As a customer since 2021, is this re-launch HN?

Loved the concept, found it fell over for real-sized things on even the most powerful machines, had to switch to Structurizr to do our C4 modeling: https://structurizr.com/

Was very disappointed, bet I'd get more devs to model architecture with this tool. If it's relaunching because perf problems were resolved, will look forward to try it again.

Depending on scope of people's needs, either highly recommended or, try it first.

Hats off to Victor for great support back then, and I see the docs are a reflection of that, like this section on embedding into popular tools:

https://docs.icepanel.io/features/sharing#embedding-share-li...

TL;DR: Helpful team, thoughtful UI, thoughtful docs, a product capability (c4 modeling) very worth understanding and using.

He built a tool called Structurizr for this.

Ah this is like https://structurizr.com which is based on C4.