lurch VS Lora-Chat-Device

Do `torify git clone https://github.com/gkdr/lurch/

the omemo support in pidgin is just through a plugin, as with many recent XEPs. i think people tend to forget that pidgin's focus is being a multi-protocol messenger. it ships with XMPP support, but that mostly includes the base.

i wrote that omemo plugin and tbh I am pretty burned out. so many moving parts, it's hell to debug and i'm not even sure where to go next with it. (plus people keep talking badly about pidgin anyway and i am not sure if it's even worth continuing.) i am very thankful for all the contributions so far, especially the help with packaging it. sorry if someone feels let down.

i feel like this is the right moment to ask: if anyone reading has an idea how to improve the state of things, i'd be happy about some suggestions. the project page is https://github.com/gkdr/lurch

Neben der normalen Version von lurch die zuletzt 2018 geupdatet wurde gibt es noch den dev build der wesentlich besser funktioniert und wo das letzte Update erst 5 Tage her ist. Allerdings muss man die Version entweder selbst kompilieren was bei Pidgin unter Windows etwas umständlich ist oder eine bereits kompilierte Version vom 24.07.2020 nutzen. https://github.com/gkdr/lurch/tree/dev https://eion.robbmob.com/lurch/dev/

> then try to find your contacts again (which may be cached by your client or not)

You can save XMPP account IDs in any mobile address book.

> Finally, you have to convince "someone" that this is just you with another account on another server. There is also no verified E2EE anymore.

I'd pretty much just do a video call at that point.

> How is this different from "when Signal goes down one uses a completely different instant messaging system", apart from using another client?

You don't have to use another client software.

> Which means: If one of these hosting companies blocks XMPP traffic (e.g., if a rogue state starts censoring) or one of these XMPP servers goes down, a huge part of XMPP users is affected.

Equally applies to most messaging apps out there. Some XMPP apps have the benefit of also supporting using Tor and hidden services - Signal/WhatsApp/etc, don't.

Don't want to use the Internet at all? You can even go wild and do something like: https://github.com/ddamianus/Lora-Chat-Device - I realize this is something most people would not do, but XMPP's _flexibility_ allows this to be an option if it was something people wanted. Can't do Signal over LoRa.