lit VS astro

That is the reason why I experiment with the TiniJS framework for a while. It is a collection of tools for developing web/desktop/mobile apps using the native Web Component technology, based on the Lit library. Thank you the Lit team for creating a great tool assists us working with standard Web Component easier.

https://github.com/lit/lit/tree/main/packages/labs/virtualiz...

actually, looking at it (https://lit.dev/), i do exactly that.

I also define a `render()` and extend my own parent, which does a `replaceChildren()` with the render. And, strangely, I also call the processor `html`

I'll still stick with mine however, my 'framework' is half-page of code. I dislike dependencies greatly. I'd need to be saving thousand+ lines at least.

Here, I don't want a build system to make a website; that's mad. So I don't want lit. I want the 5 lines it takes to invoke a dom parser, and the 5 lines it takes do define a webcomp parent.

I rather like https://lit.dev/ for web components so far.

For the reactivity stuff, you might want to read https://frontendmasters.com/blog/vanilla-javascript-reactivi... - it shows a bunch of no-library-required patterns that, while in a number of cases I'd much rather use a library myself, all seems at least -basically- reasonable to me and will probably be far more comprehensible to you than whatever I'd reach for, and frameworks are always much more pleasant to approach after you've already done a bunch of stuff by banging rocks together first.

I work on Lit, which I would hesitate to call a framework, but gives a framework-like DX for building web components, while trying to keep opinions to a minimum and lock-in as low as possible.

It's got reactivity, declarative templates, great performance, SSR, TypeScript support, native CSS encapsulation, context, tasks, and more.

It's used to build Material Design, settings and devtools UIs for Chrome, some UI for Firefox, Reddit, Photoshop Web...

https://lit.dev if you're interested.

I am more a fan of the augmented style because it doesn't entrap you in dev lock-in to platforms.

The problem with frameworks, especially web frameworks, is they reimplement many items that are standard now (shadowdom, components, storage, templating, base libraries, class/async, network/realtime etc).

If you like the component style of other frameworks but want to use Web Components, Google Lit is quite nice.

Google Lit is like a combination of HTML Web Components and React/Vue style components. The great part is it is build on Web Components underneath.

[1] https://lit.dev/

From the comments I see here, it seems like people expect the Webcomponents API to be a complete replacement for a JS framework. The thing is, our frameworks should start making use of modern web APIs, so the frameworks will have to do less themselves, so can be smaller. Lit [0] for example is doing this. Using Lit is very similar to using React. Some things work different, and you have to get used to some web component specific things, but once you get it, I think it's way more pleasant to work with than React. It feels more natural, native, less framework-specific.

For state management, I created LitState [1], a tiny library (really only 258 lines), which integrates nicely with Lit, and which makes state management between multiple components very easy. It's much easier than the Redux/flux workflows found in React.

So my experience with this is that it's much nicer to work with, and that the libraries are way smaller.

[0] https://lit.dev/

Astro is the new hot new web framework on the block. All the cool kids are using it. I've recently given up, drank the Kool-Aid, and gone all in on it.

Built with Supabase, Astro, Unreal Speech, Stable Diffusion, Replicate, Metropolitan Museum of Art

Astro to use every framework at once instead of just react? https://astro.build/

Depending on the stack of the repository you are cloning, you might have to install additional dependencies. For this demo, I'm using my own website, which is a static website built with Astro.js. It which requires to have Node.js installed and Yarn for package manager.

Database: turso [7] or neon postgres [8] with (drizzle orm) or cloudflare durable objects

1. https://github.com/withastro/astro

Maybe a bit too elaborate for your taste, but I've used https://astro.build/ and loved every bit of it.

Astro is an open-source JavaScript framework known for its versatility, performance, and new approach to web development. It enables developers to create fast, modern, content-rich web applications and sites using the "Bring Your Own Framework" (BYOF) model.

Astro was always on my list of things to learn. I've been using Remix and NextJS for a while, and I was interested in trying out a new framework. I decided it would be a good opportunity to build the site with it. This decision turned out to be a great one, as it saved me a lot of money on hosting costs later on.

We are continuing to make building fullstack websites and application with Analog and Angular as seamless as possible, and extending the Angular ecosystem through integrations with Astro, Nx, [Vitest]https://analogjs.org/docs/features/testing/vitest, Storybook, and more.

import { defineDb, defineTable, column } from 'astro:db'; const Visits = defineTable({ columns: { id: column.number({ primaryKey: true }), page: column.text({ default: 'home' }), content: column.text({ default: "none" }), pagination: column.number({ default: 1 }), visitor_ip_hash: column.text(), visitor_user_agent_hash: column.text(), visitor_count: column.number({ default: 1 }) } }); // https://astro.build/db/config export default defineDb({ tables: { Visits } });