lem VS cider

Direct Link to "Lem" the Common Lisp based "Emacs" discussed in the talk.

https://lem-project.github.io/

Lem is here -> https://lem-project.github.io/

There's also Lem, which has a good vim mode and is scriptable in Common Lisp (since it's built in CL) :D https://github.com/lem-project/lem/ It has: LSP support, a treeview, project-related commands, a directory mode, a POC git mode… with ncurses and SDL2 UIs.

New release of Lem, a hackablee ditor with high extensibility written in Common Lisp and with support for LSP.

Also, with a new webpage! https://lem-project.github.io/lem-page/

Oh, thanks. There is now describe-key to describe a keybinding, and documentation-describe-bindings to list all keys, grouped by modes. The result is given inside Lem, and generated as this .md file: https://github.com/lem-project/lem/blob/main/docs/default-keybindings.md

Install https://github.com/lem-project/lem/releases/tag/v2.0.0 and follow this free online book: https://gigamonkeys.com/book/

Official release page: https://github.com/lem-project/lem/releases/tag/v2.0.0

> I do think cider (https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider) has stuff regarding stepping debuggers, but I'm not sure how common it is to use it. Maybe other Clojure users can fill me in :)

I don't really care about stepping; for me the debugger is about inspecting the state of my program when an exception (maybe because I interrupted it, or because I inserted a breakpoint, or just because something went wrong) happens. Backtrace, local variables, evaluating forms at different stack frames and so-forth.

This was a pain. I tried using vscode with calva, but gave up pretty soon after starting. Ended up using emacs with cider, which was pretty nice, but had a huge learning curve for me since I'm not an emacs user. (Maybe I am after this...)

I was wondering that what the author and other redditors here would think of/about Cursive, an affordable IDE for Clojure, while they have cider in Emacs as well.

I'm very excited about sideloader feature in nREPL 0.9 and the corresponding ability for CIDER to upgrade the connection, adding its middleware. But I don't see this connection upgrading feature ticket #3037 in the plans for CIDER 1.2, but the sideloader ticket #246 is listed in the plans for nREPL 0.9. It seems that #3037 is held only by #246, so if it will be solved by the time 0.9 release, will there be plans to supporting it in CIDER 1.2?